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Weekend Rostrum: Part II

April 21, 2012


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  1. April 21, 2012 7:00 pm

    It’s “my better half and I”.

    FFS! I’m not the fkn queen!

    Contrary to popular belief…

  2. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 7:00 pm

    That’s correct. Tom of Melbourne will be happy to cover you, I’m sure.

    I’ll pay for ToM if he brings Fifi and Lulu…..

  3. Tony permalink
    April 21, 2012 7:01 pm


  4. April 21, 2012 7:06 pm

    “I’ll pay for ToM if he brings Fifi and Lulu…..”

    Maybe I could get klan girl….

  5. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 7:10 pm

    Oh the conflict…….

    Or maybe……….

    I am a celebrity after all…….

  6. April 21, 2012 7:19 pm

    I’ve been trying to be interested in AFL (apparently it’s important in Melbourne), but I have to admit it’s a struggle.

    Apparently hating Collingwood is a good first step.

  7. Tony permalink
    April 21, 2012 7:31 pm

    You don’t even have to be interested in AFL, but hating Collingwood is the default position in polite Melbourne society. 😉

  8. Bacchus permalink
    April 21, 2012 7:31 pm

    For those who don’t have Word 2010 but still want to watch James in all his glory on Hot Seat – embedded in an earlier Word version file.

    Instructions to view:
    Click on the link, choose “Save File” (Firefox) or “Save” (IE). NOTE: the file is ~260MB – it took me about 7 ½ minutes to download at 100Mbps. Double click on the embedded video file & it should play (you may need to “Enable Editing” to allow the file to play).

  9. April 21, 2012 7:47 pm

    Hating Collingwood is quite admirable.

  10. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:25 pm

    Reb, best if you hate Collingwood, Essendon, and Carlton, and laugh at Richmond. None of them will hold it against you as they’re used to it and you won’t become one of the hated.

  11. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:27 pm

    Or laughed at.

  12. Tony permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:40 pm

    Message to “reb”: You would be wise to completely disregard teams like South Melbourne “Sydney” “Swans” (who competely sold their soul when they moved north of the border). As for pretend teams like “The” Adelaide Crows, or Port Adelaide “Power”: GUFFAW!

  13. Tony permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:42 pm

    Sorry Bacchus, I still can’t get the Sanctimonius video to work. 😦

  14. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:50 pm

    reb can you do something about the annoying text box please?

    I’ve just got home and catching up now.
    Thanks for the link to celebrity james bacchus, I certainly intend to view tonight or tomorrow. Did you wear make-up james?

    I have brought this over from the unwieldy and lengthy thomson 6 thread too [too lazy & too tired to go back & forth actually].

    “…Slipper has been bought and paid for by the government….”

    And the Coalition must be spending their days desperately trawling for something, anything. I wonder how many full time staff are on the dirt unit’ payroll spending their days trawling through every Labor MP’s life and background. Slipper must be fair game now he’s not one of them. I’d like to know what financial incentives have been offered to Ashby for this ‘expose’ of old claims.

    “…I’m not certain that Ashby comes with clean hands…”

    me neither, I only caught a bit of it on the way to work this am and it did seem strange. Slipper out of the country and the Coalition making merry. I haven’t seen the mobile message or caught up with the other details that you have as yet, just offering first thoughts. Abbott will stoop at nothing to win the keys to the lodge. More and more he shows why he doesn’t deserve them. Arthur Sidonosidis [?spelling], Abbott, Andrews and others were all in Howard’s ministry and would have previously known of Slipper’s rep. Why didn’t they surface in 2003 when they were first alleged?

    Of course, it’s all a different story if Ashby is genuine and genuinely wanted the allegations to be dealt with at the time [and hasn’t he brought a complaint previously?] and has been seething about a perceived lack of justice for himself, then that’s OK. But, why didn’t he persist with the claim? Why does it surface so suddenly and publicly now when the Thomson saga isn’t working for them?

    If Howard’s mob stomped on the original complaint or interfered with the process to avoid any embarrassment in 2003, then in my mind it looks even worse for Abbott to bring it on now after holding it up before. Staff ought not be manipulated like that, and Arthur’s “I wasn’t aware” just doesn’t wash, he was always Howard’s right hand man.

    I hope Ashby is getting much by way of reward for allowing himself to be used for such craven political purposes! [if he is] and if he is the one who has brought about the allegations again as a ‘favour’ to please the boys, then he is pretty despicable too.

  15. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:58 pm

    Hold up a little, KL, you’d better read it first because you’ve got a fair bit wrong. I reckon the Libs have been fairly restrained on this, wisely I might add. The previous allegations didn’t involve Ashby. It was someone else.

    The ALP deserve everything they get here. He was being booted by the Libs for his poor conduct and they really needed to stay clear of him.

  16. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 8:59 pm

    And I only do makeup in certain special circumstances, and they don’t include TV appearances.

  17. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 9:06 pm

    So, I guess I should just say that until we hear more about it, I’m in two minds. Have to give it to Abbott for causing the maximum possible damage to Labor by throwing another bomb when it can be least defended. He’s a born terrorist for sure.

  18. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 9:08 pm

    Hold up a little, KL, you’d better read it first because you’ve got a fair bit wrong. I reckon the Libs have been fairly restrained on this, wisely I might add. The previous allegations didn’t involve Ashby. It was someone else.

    Who? do you know?

    Very likely james, I haven’t read up on it yet, been having some dinner! I know very little about it so far.

  19. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 9:11 pm

    And I only do makeup in certain special circumstances, and they don’t include TV appearances.

    I’m intrigued, what ‘special’ circumstances?

  20. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 9:13 pm

    I think my download [courtesy of bacchus] just finished, busy now, see ya on the big screen 😆

  21. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 9:18 pm

    I don’t know what happened, I double-clicked on the mpeg file and it completely disappeared, did it get eaten by something bacchus?

  22. April 21, 2012 9:20 pm

    Crows weren’t very convincing against GWS.

    Sense danger against Portscum next week. 😯

  23. April 21, 2012 9:27 pm

    Onya, james! 🙂

    But you shoulda thown one of your shoes at Eddy…then your journey towards the darkside would have been complete. 😉

  24. April 21, 2012 9:48 pm

    “reb can you do something about the annoying text box please?”

    I’m afraid it’s out of my control. It’s wordpress (yet again) adjusting things without asking anyone whether they want it or not…. *sorry*

  25. April 21, 2012 9:50 pm

    To what degree should I despise St Kilda…?

    Vehemently, or just casually…??

  26. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 9:51 pm

    how do you play that file toiletboss? it’s not working for me

  27. April 21, 2012 10:19 pm

    Vehemently, reb!

    Same goes for all Victorian teams…but definitely Collingwood & St.KIlda moreso.

  28. April 21, 2012 10:21 pm


    Using Firefox…left clicked link & it asked me if I wanted to download…select yes/continue or somesuch…wait…open file…double left click wmv icon…voila…big sancty!…and eddy the aggravating…

    Got lucky. I’m no tech head.

    *thanx, bacchus. 🙂

  29. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 10:27 pm

    Just saw it, goes from $1000 to $250,000 with nothing in between!

    Well done james. Pretty cool under pressure, I detected no sweating!

    You didn’t even present like a RWDB, sounded quite normal, just goes to show how deceptive TV can be 😆

  30. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 10:32 pm

    flash eddie, haven’t seen him for years, I usually avoid ch 9.

    Got lucky. I’m no tech head.

    me too, I clicked and changed everything I could think of Winamp wouldn’t do it, Media Player Classic wouldn’t render, but in the end played it on windows media player

  31. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 10:35 pm

    I’m on chrome, not sure if it’s that great, some things don’t seem to work too well with it. But my techie nephew said to use it [probably only good for gamers!]

  32. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 21, 2012 11:14 pm

    Who needs to see Abbott’s mug on TV when we have tomM to spread his message

    WEDNESDAY, APRIL 18, 2012

    Drum Piece–Government Debt and Interest Rates
    My Drum piece today has a bit of a squiz at the veracity of Tony Abbott’s claims that Government debt is creating “upward pressure” on interest rates. He made the claim in a doorstop on Saturday. Here were the stinging questions he faced when he brought up the link:


    Mr Abbott, is there anything you want to say about the fact that ANZ rose their rates yesterday?


    Just to get back to the ANZ issue, do you support the ANZ decision?


    You do support the bank?


    But some groups have been calling for interest rates to go down but this is going in the opposite direction. Is it justified?

    Yep real tough, and as usual looking at economics through a political gaze. Here was the one attempt to hold him to account:


    Isn’t it the higher cost of borrowing from Europe, because of their situation, it being given as the reason for this rise?


    And this is a Government which is making a difficult situation worse. The best thing the Government could do to take the pressure off interest rates is to stop borrowing $100 million every single day.

    Unfortunately the follow up didn’t attempt to challenge him on his belief that “this is a Government which is making a difficult situation worse” instead we had this limp question which implicitly accepted Abbott’s statement:


    But that doesn’t bring that much comfort, surely, to ANZ customers who are suffering under the banks decision?

    Yeah, he must really shake in his boots before having to front up to any press conference.

    Anyhoo, here are the graphs:

    G’awn, check out the graphs.

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 21, 2012 11:50 pm

    ” I’ll pay for ToM if he brings Fifi and Lulu…..”

    Fine with me. Though they’re busy with marketing the new range of crocodile skin underwear, as well as running the “dance club”.

    We (Fifi, Lulu and I) are just back from an evening of fine wining and dining. Or at least the wine was fine. Personally, I’m willing to skimp on food, but never wine. An extra couple of chews on the sirloin doesn’t bother my palate as much as choking down a bad red.

    What’s the use?
    I’ll look at James blowing the price of a St Kilda bedsit later, but isn’t there also one of his wife?
    Abbott may take a logical short cut in the way he talks about interest rates. It isn’t the actual volume of borrowing (we don’t borrow enough for that to affect interest rate markets). It is the government intervention in the level of economic activity and the RB response.

    That’s why it was so very stupid of Swan to continue with the stimulus when the economy was on the upswing.

    But everyone knows that!

  34. Bacchus permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:10 am

    Sorry Tony – without knowing what OS & software you’re using and what your settings are, I can’t really advise what might help you to watch James 😦

    You’ve got to save the file to your local system (you can’t open it in situ) and you may have to “allow editing” or some such pop-up because the file has been downloaded from the Internet & thus is inherently unsafe. Beyond that, I don’t think I can help much from here.

    Of course, if you could get your friend ToM to fund my flight to Melbourne, accommodation and the cost of the Melbourne soiree, I may be able to look at it for you 😆

  35. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:11 am

    Reb…don’t listen to a Croweater about living in Melbourne. He wouldn’t know. I think St Kilda are scum but that’s because I follow South Melbourne and our grounds were at either end of the lake. More broadly, there’s not enough hate to stretch beyond those big 3 unless you really want to get into it and besides, how can you hate a club with one flag 50 odd years ago? That’s just mean.

    KL, don’t chrome. It messes with your head. Sure it’s cheap and no doubt your nephew thinks it’s great but stick with booze or at worst weed.

    The most interesting thing about that millionaire thing was just how gutted Eddie was. I guess I never think about the factors that mean the life or death of some of these programs but I can tell you it had been some time since they’d given away good money and he thought I was going to get it. He was almost inconsolable. You see me apologize but what happened was that he sat with his head in his hands for about ten seconds before that. That got edited.

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:15 am

    Choosing a football team is an onerous responsibility. Most people in Victoria carry the burden of their forebears from birth. They don’t have an option.

    Or perhaps they do, it is an option between accepting the football team of your parents or being ostracised, and moving out of home at the age of 11. Mind you, moving out would be the preferred option if your parents selected the Bulldogs for you. They won their premiership around the time Menzies got rid of the United Australia Party, plus Julia Gillard supports them, so they may not have much in the way of credibility.

    If there was a clean slate for choice, I think Richmond would be the team.

    • They’re maybe on the upswing, and it’s a chance to get in early.
    • Their supporters are as brainless and boganlike as the Collingwood ones, but without quite the same reputation.
    • A new supporter will be admired for their superior intellect and sophistication. Even one fromTasmania.
    • You get to spit at your own coach.
    • Games are at the MCG, and that’s near the Cricketer’s Arms and even the Precinct.
    • Richmond women wear their finest terylene to games.

    So that’s my suggestion.

    Though maybe the Bulldogs aren’t so bad by comparison.

  37. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:26 am

    Don’t be cruel, ToM. He’s only new. And Andrew Bolt is. Tiger. That would kill Reb to have such an alliance.

    Reb, I suggest North Melbourne. They have very few supporters, have a link to Hobart, but best of all, they’ll be gone in a couple of years so then you can legitimately state that you don’t support a club on principle since the fkn AFL sent your Kangas to the wall and by the way that Demetriou is a fat fkn cnt.

  38. Tony permalink
    April 22, 2012 8:00 am

    Finally got the file to play, thanks Bacchus. 😉 In the end I removed then reinstalled the Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack. Seems to have done the trick. Poor ol’ Sancty looked devastated. 😯

  39. April 22, 2012 8:42 am

    Thanks for the suggestions, but I’m not convinced about Hawthorn.

    Their outfit is black and gold which reminds me all too much of the colours some bogan might wear at the Gold Coast or the Pelazzo Versace.

    Howabout Geelong? They always seem to be in the grand final, and I don’t mind blue and white, although the way some people paint themselves all over and cover themselves in fur and whiskers does trouble me a bit.

  40. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 22, 2012 10:23 am

    Hawthorn’s colours are brown and gold, a tacky combination that belongs at a 70s theme party. Plus Hawthorns supporters are mainly shady tossers. No, they’re not the club anyone would willingly choose.

    Richmond perhaps.

    James maybe right about North, he’s certainly right about Demitriou. But North is just so inoffensive these days it seems pointless taking any interest in them. When Wayne Carey was on with the wife of his teammate, they were worth talking about. But I don’t think there is any salacious interest now.

    Bulldogs have plenty going for them, you can go to the games and boo their number 1 ticket holder, and their coach.

  41. hadn of Jesus permalink
    April 22, 2012 10:43 am

    Geelong isn’t a bad band wagon to jump on! Gary Sr is a great role model since he found the jeebus.

  42. hadn of Jesus permalink
    April 22, 2012 10:48 am

    Richmond, the choice of those who enjoy perpetual doldrums.

    North Melbourne, destination insolvency.

    Victorian teams are throwbacks to Melbournite insularity.

  43. TB Queensland permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:27 pm

    I’ve been trying to be interested in AFL (apparently it’s important in Melbourne), but I have to admit it’s a struggle.

    LOL! I can completely relate to that, sreb … its not called aerial ping pong for nothing … watch a couple of Irish Football games … that’s where they nicked the rules from … but couldn’t find a round ball in Melbourne …

    Melbourne does have a decent rugby league team with a really good fan base (although they got caught cheating a bit last year — NO, do not mention it!) … watch the Storm …

    They all wear tight shorts, so either game would suit … (is that a pun?) the AFL clubs can’t afford sleeves for some players though … pretty naff looking actually … the more I think about it the AFL would probably suit your “demeanour” better than the NRL …

  44. hadn of Jesus permalink
    April 22, 2012 12:53 pm

    They have necks & non-mangled ears in the AFL too.

    Unlike a certain talentless, kickless running game for niche dumbarses which doesn’t rate a mention.

  45. Meta permalink
    April 22, 2012 4:17 pm

    (By the Dogs, and just in time, mayhaps.)

  46. Tom R permalink
    April 22, 2012 8:26 pm

  47. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 11:55 am

    <a href=" nuns group "stunned" by Vatican slap Fri, Apr 20 17:07 PM EDT

    …In a stinging report on Wednesday, the Vatican said the Leadership Conference of Women Religious had been “silent on the right to life” and had failed to make the “Biblical view of family life and human sexuality” a central plank in its agenda.

    It also reprimanded American nuns for expressing positions on political issues that differed, at times, from views held by American bishops. Public disagreement with the bishops – “who are the church’s authentic teachers of faith and morals” – is unacceptable, the report said…

    Scrutinise MPs’ networks as well as their wallets

    …when asked about the nature of his wife’s savings or investment accounts, Anthony Albanese says this is ”not known”. He’s being asked by the Parliament of Australia, in the interests of transparency and under threat of a contempt charge, to state his spouse’s interests and he says ”I don’t know”. What does it take for him to ask her I wonder? And what does it take for the Speaker of the House of Representatives to make him ask her?

    Similarly, Bob Katter is even more gung ho about his wife’s finances and says, ”She does not provide me with this information and regards it as her private business”! Later on, he says: ”My wife has at times bought and sold some investment properties but she regards this as her private business.” Sorry, Bob…

    …When a person becomes a member of Parliament, it is not too much to ask that he or she put aside half a day to properly outline the financial interests and links to organisations that will receive money and other benefits from his or her vote as an MP. The register as it is now does not even go half way to doing this. And it should not be buried so deeply in Parliament House’s website that it is inaccessible to all but the most experienced web browsers…

  48. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 12:08 pm

    [gregory storer] This was us at the Global Atheist Convention counter-protesting the Islamic Funda-mental-ist protesters.

  49. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 12:17 pm

    2012 Global Atheist Convention tribute to christopher hitchens

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 5:28 pm

    Something else to think about while we tune in to terrorist anders breivik’s testimony.

    Is Anders Breivik just John Howard with a gun?

    …his wider attack includes or included at various times Asians, Muslims, aborigines, refugees, ‘terrorists’; basically anyone who didn’t fit within his narrow white anglo-centric view of what it meant to be ‘Australian’. The Labor Party has mirrored this to varying degrees because it too wants to disguise its neoliberalism and the consequences…

    …The right disagree with Breivik’s actions and tactics, not his political concerns. Their aim is to win control of the state and use its power to impose their anti-working class programme on their populations…

    …Across the world the working class is beginning to stir. From Egypt to Europe and on to the US workers are starting to fight back. Therein lies the way to beat back reaction and fascism…

    Comment from MarianK
    Time July 31, 2011 at 7:51 am

    ‘Breivik saw 3 threats to Western society – Islam, multiculturalism and cultural Marxism. ‘

    Four threats actually. Add feminism to that.

    Brevik’s sad manifesto was permeated by all the gynophobic dogmas we’ve come to expect from the the Murdoch press, the conservative right-wing, the anti-abortion lobby, mens movement gurus like Warren Farrell, and soft-Left commentators like Christopher Hitchens and Bob Ellis.

    Writes Brevik: “The female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of men in Europe …” He rails against the West’s “destructive and suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual revolution) … In that setting, men are not men anymore, but metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist woman goddess.”

    We should all know the formula by now – i.e. female empowerment = men’s emasculation = the downfall of Western civilisation = the rise of [insert your own choice of major existential threat].

    Along with Brevik’s fear of the Left, the media has said very little about his fear of women. Not surprising when you think about how much both of these threats have dominated the Murdoch opinion pages to date…

  51. April 23, 2012 6:17 pm

    The rightards won’t like that equivalence about Breivik, KL.

    Bolt has been deprogramming them to forget that he was/is a rightwing extremist…because, in Boltworld, there’s no such thing. All evil stems from teh Left. 😯

  52. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 6:39 pm

    According to the Bolter…one in three French voters are either far right or teh far left. Its not like that in Oz.

  53. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2012 6:43 pm

    Well I was selected onto a jury (so I get at $100 a day, plus $12:50 lunch money and my “concession” bus fares)

  54. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 6:47 pm

    Congratulations TB…its our civil duty.

  55. April 23, 2012 6:55 pm

    Onya, TB! 🙂

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:06 pm

    Sat, literally locked up for over 2 hours in a room 5×5 metres while they argued points of law … (this 12 complete strangers) …

    … released for lunch … admittedly 1.5 hours(!) …

    … and then locked up for another 2 hours …

    … then an hour and 20 minutes of “evidence’ (if I reveal anything I go to jail!)

  57. Bacchus permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:15 pm

    What court TB – Supreme or District?

  58. April 23, 2012 7:15 pm

    Well done TB 🙂

    I hope you’ll be demanding the death sentence.

    That would be my default position, regardless of the charges.

    Have I mentioned that as yet, I haven’t been invited to participate in the judge jury party..?

  59. April 23, 2012 7:20 pm

    (if I reveal anything I go to jail!)

    Oh, go on TB…

    You can tell us…

    We won’t tell anyone else…

    TELL US…!!!!

    (You know you’ll feel better).

  60. Bacchus permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:21 pm

    I got called up for the Supreme court back in the early 90s, but didn’t get selected & only lasted one morning after the judge threatened to jail the Bailiff and dismissed the rest of the panel who weren’t selected, just because the Bailiff tried to bring 100 prospective jurors into the court 😆

  61. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:52 pm

    …The rightards won’t like that equivalence about Breivik, KL…

    No apparently a lone mad man.

    I know tb, I had a quick look over at boltworld [heavy going with such prolific hate on parade and that’s before I even read the comments] and he seems to be skiting that the far right is doing better than expected in the French presidential election. Some of bolt’s commenters would have to be the most pig ignorant people in Australia, they really haven’t stretched their thinking abilities in any way. Seem to be full of the far right US teabagger rubbish of god and country and somehow equate a right wing Labor government (Gillard) with communism. Too much Murdoch causes brain rot, it is seen in boltlimitedworldview Funny that they can’t see themselves in breivik.

    France rediscovers the allure of shaping its own singular destiny

    …The other reason why this election is not a sign that France is finally embracing unbridled free-market values is that if you add up the abstentions and Mélenchon’s anti-capitalist voters and those who vote for Marine Le Pen’s Front National, the majority of the electorate does not appear to believe in the current system. A survey taken across 10 countries, including Britain, America and China, and published in 2011, revealed that 33% of French people felt that capitalism didn’t work and should be abandoned, versus 10% in Britain…

    Sounds like france is my kinda country!

    … then an hour and 20 minutes of “evidence’ (if I reveal anything I go to jail!)

    I’d be interested to know about the juror experience when you can speak about it TB, the people, the influences, the process.

  62. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:54 pm

    I was called up for jury service, when I was a little busy with some work.

    I wore a white cotton shirt, a good quality navy suit with a pinstripe, navy blue and gold stripe tie. These clothes ensure you’re never selected for jury service.

  63. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:57 pm

    “Sounds like france is my kinda country!”

    You’d probably like Cuba or Venezuela even more. 😉

  64. April 23, 2012 7:58 pm

    presumably they thought you were a poof Tom…?

  65. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2012 7:59 pm

    “These clothes ensure you’re never selected for jury service.”

    Unless it’s a case of white-collar crime, then you’d be first picked!. 😯

  66. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2012 8:01 pm

    I think they presumed I was a poof who was predisposed to find all the guilty bludgers – guilty.

  67. April 23, 2012 8:08 pm

    I think the ‘death sentence” is a good place to start.

    Bugger all this “presumption of innocence” nonsense…

  68. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    April 23, 2012 8:11 pm

    I’d appoint myself as foreman, then start deliberations with – “which of you soft cocks doesn’t agree that the c**t is guilty?”

  69. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 8:23 pm

    At the end of the trial we expect nothing less than a thousand words from TB (in his best prose) on the cut and thrust of the arguments.

  70. April 23, 2012 8:40 pm

    LOL @ YoM

  71. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 8:40 pm

    You’d probably like Cuba or Venezuela even more.

    See that’s where you extreme righties go wrong, you’ve become so used to inhabiting the world and warped thinking of capitalist zealotry that anything reasonable like humanity and equality is viewed as communism 🙂

  72. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2012 8:46 pm

    I thought lefties liked communism. I mean, it’s just about people working together in a commune, isn’t it?

  73. April 23, 2012 8:55 pm

    I think ‘commie’, & all of its negative connotations, is more of a buzzword & fixation of teh right than teh left.

    It gives them something to fear (squirt, squirt) & rail about from times of yore.

    They quickly change the boogeymen when they wear out their impact. Islam is the new communism. And greenies, they’re the new old communism too.
    ‘Commies’ may be back in vogue with the squirters because it gets traction in a younger generation of squirters who weren’t around for the real thing?

    Don’t forget, Julia & Obama are communists…& one of them is a horrid muslim to boot.

  74. Tony permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:02 pm

    Well perhaps one of you learned philosophers would like to explain what modern leftism entails, in a nutshell.

  75. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:12 pm

    ‘And greenies, they’re the new old communism too.’

    The Greens are propped up by the Socialist Alliance and that’s the same milieu which formed Julia’s political thinking.

  76. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:31 pm


  77. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:35 pm

    (squirt, squirt)


    …I think ‘commie’, & all of its negative connotations, is more of a buzzword & fixation of teh right than teh left…

    Most certainly. It worked a treat in the menzies era too. The new squirter generation have been brought up to worship the corporate culture of competition, dog eat dog, stab in the back individualism and resent anyone who might be a drain on their [self declared] brilliant skills and enterprise. You’re a loser if you reject their ,strike>selfish greed aspiration.

    You hear it in the US all the time. They have such an extreme capitalist presence in that country that anyone who criticises or objects to their system of supreme corporate power and control is immediately labelled a commie. I’m sure the IPA and other right wing zealots all went to the US for their business degree, then returned here to proselytize to australians about the wonders of the free market as seen through their US corporate brainwashing.

  78. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:46 pm

    ‘When I talk to climate-change sceptics in my local area, it is clear their views have not been moulded by mainstream politics. In fact, if there is one thing they are more sceptical about than climate change, it is the credibility of the political system.’ Mark Latham

    He’s right on that score, people have always been interested in the weather and climate is a natural extension of that hobby.

    And politicians are pathetic!

  79. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:48 pm

    Have you noticed that whenever a US speaker comes over here, all of a sudden our journos and politicians start using their buzzwords?

    The most recent one that I can think of was “kicking the can down the road” that got quite a good run from our public commentators. Can’t remember who was visiting at the time.

  80. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 23, 2012 9:50 pm

    shoosh now el gordo, no time for you, bob brown is on the telly (Q&A)!

  81. el gordo permalink
    April 23, 2012 10:59 pm

    Holmes (Media watch) is a blatant leftard, nevertheless his condemnation of Alan Jones was justified on this occasion.

  82. el gordo permalink
    April 24, 2012 7:19 am

    Confusing Lake Macquarie with Port Macquarie is of concern, but Jones doesn’t have a clue. Then we have rising sea level in inches to help the oldies, which he gets totally wrong.

    The Denialati is not amused.

  83. JAWS permalink
    April 24, 2012 11:50 am

    OK so the inflation figures are out and they are very low.

    So what does the RBA do next ?

    If it cuts by 25 base points will the Gang of 4 pass any of it on ?

    Perhaps 15 base points will be passed on out of 25.

    In which case why bother cutting……….why not wait until the following month and cut by a whopping 50 base points especially if as expected Spain goes through the shit shute and Sarkhozy is defeated by the mad socialists who want to lead France to renewed growth by a massive hike in taxes and increasing public servant wages.

    What’s not to like in that ay ?

    A bit more public sector borrowing should do the trick.

    Who would like to read the goat entrails first ?

  84. JAWS permalink
    April 24, 2012 12:38 pm

    Isn’t it great to see that Mathew Newton has stepped upto the plate in order to fill the shoes of our now retired ambassador of Aussie goodwill Sir Les Patterson.

    Personally I liked Sir Les better

  85. April 24, 2012 2:10 pm

    One from me on ANZAC Day..ok, it’s a bit sooky, but just thought to let you know. I thought that TB might like it.

  86. April 24, 2012 2:29 pm

    Apparently Bert and Patti are confident that Mathew will have “a happy ending”.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that he’s paid for quite a few of those in the past…

  87. JAWS permalink
    April 24, 2012 3:49 pm

    “I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that he’s paid for quite a few of those in the past…”

    Yeah…………he seems to have a great fondness for closed fists

  88. el gordo permalink
    April 24, 2012 6:35 pm

    Chinese students attacked at Rockdale causes media storm in China.

    ‘The incident has made headlines acrosss China, including on the popular news sites Sina News and the English language Shanghai Daily.’

    Read more:

  89. el gordo permalink
    April 24, 2012 10:38 pm

    I’m taking a punt in suggesting the larrikins who beat up the Chinese students are in fact Australians.

    ‘Police arrived at Rockdale station about 12.45am and arrested a 19-year-old man, two 18-year-old men, a 14-year-old boy and two girls aged 16 and 17.

    ‘They have been charged with a number of offences related to robbery and assault.’

  90. el gordo permalink
    April 25, 2012 7:00 am

    ‘YOUNG adults from disadvantaged backgrounds are much more likely to have moved out of home by age 20 than their more privileged peers and to be disengaged from education and employment, a study shows.

    ‘More than one-third of 20-year-olds from families with a long history of welfare dependence live independently of their parents. In contrast, three in four 20-year-olds from advantaged backgrounds are still living at home.’

    Read more:

    Considering the shortage of accommodation I think this is a good thing.

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  93. April 25, 2012 5:25 pm

    * sorry, TNUCS

  94. April 25, 2012 5:35 pm

    Let’s see if the usual suspects, the world over, squirt & clamour as much about this (from an uncomfortable ‘ally’) as they would if it was done by Iran (an official ‘enemy’).

  95. el gordo permalink
    April 25, 2012 6:18 pm

    The Chinese are experiencing economic uncertainty, their Reserve and our Reserve didn’t see this slowdown coming….from China Daily

    ‘Some analysts predicted a reserve-ratio cut this quarter due to the economic slowdown. China’s growth in the first quarter slowed to 8.1 percent year-on-year, below market expectations of 8.4 percent.’

  96. el gordo permalink
    April 25, 2012 8:05 pm

    The story about the Englishman who emigrated to Brisbane with 12 youngsters and a loving wife….has found a job already.

    ‘Speaking to The Sun, Mr Jones said: ‘They (Australians) just seem to have a completely different outlook on life. People don’t expect something for nothing. They work for what they get and they value their leisure time.’

    Read more:

  97. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 25, 2012 8:32 pm

    We would be cactus if it wasn’t for the mining boom.

    The prices of export commodities are still about 40 per cent higher than they were when the Coalition lost office in 2007.

    Robb says that were commodity prices to drop back to that level again, the budget would be facing deficits of $60bn or $70bn a year. It would not take long, at that rate, before the debt became a serious national issue.”

    So even with commodity prices 40% higher than Costello was getting, Swan cannot balance the budget.

    I remember leftoids telling me many times that Costello only balanced the budget because of the mining boom. But the boom did not start until 2004 and Costello was already running surplus budgets.

    It is about time that ALP supporters gave Costello some credit for good management of the economy.

  98. Bacchus permalink
    April 25, 2012 9:50 pm

    Have some facts Neil…

    Don’t believe Mr Koukoulas? As he says, all figures can be found at the ABS, Reserve Bank or Treasury.

    Once you’ve assimilated that (something you should be able to understand), you could do worse than further reading here:

    You might even like that one – Prof Mitchell doesn’t particularly wholeheartedly support our current “World’s Best Treasurer.”

  99. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 25, 2012 10:14 pm

    What is your point Bacchus??

    All the link I gave said is that if Swan was getting the revenue from mining that Costello was getting we would be having $60-$70B deficits.

    Commodity prices are 40% higher than in 2007.

    If Swan cannot balance the budget now he never will.

    In the middle of the biggest mining boom in our history. Labor in Queensland racked up enormous debt and lost its credit rating.

  100. Bacchus permalink
    April 25, 2012 10:28 pm

    All that shows me is that you don’t understand the underlying economics and just accept raw (and deliberately misleading) figures from anyone associated with the Liberal party as fact – nothing has changed in your mind for at least 5 years Neil. Consider that this may have future consequences…

    FYI – I think the only reason for a surplus at this time is political – definitely not economic…

  101. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 26, 2012 9:42 am


    I have not changed my opinion for 5 years. And my opinion of you has not changed.

    If Costello was still Treasurer and was running $40B deficits you would not be saying it was due to the GFC.

  102. el gordo permalink
    April 26, 2012 11:32 am

    If the Howard and Costello team had stayed in power, Australia wouldn’t be experiencing political turmoil.

    The refugee problem, GFC overreaction and CO2 tax never happened….the people are calm, confident and united.

    In reality….

  103. Neil of Sydney permalink
    April 26, 2012 12:01 pm

    “The refugee problem”

    Apparently we were spending $80M/year on refugees in 2007. We are now spending $1.2B/year. That is an extra spend of $1B because Labor said Howards policies were inhumane.

  104. el gordo permalink
    April 26, 2012 7:32 pm

    Labor has blown out to 6/1 in the election stakes, with the Coalition still the firm favourite even with a hopeless jockey.

    The punters see opportunity (confident they’ll change the jockey before the post) ‘with 40% of the money coming in for Labor.’

    ‘So, although the odds seem stacked towards the Opposition romping home in late 2013, punters have poured a sizable amount into Labor being the comeback kid.’

  105. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2012 6:51 am

    ‘Twenty years ago, the Earth Summit in Rio resulted in a Convention on Biological Diversity, now signed by 193 nations, to prevent species loss. But can we tell how many species are becoming extinct? One statement on the Convention’s website claims: “We are indeed experiencing the greatest wave of extinction since the disappearance of the dinosaurs. Every hour three species disappear. Every day up to 150 species are lost.” It is possible to count the number of species known to be extinct. The International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) does just that. It has listed 801 animal and plant species (mostly animal) known to have gone extinct since 1500. According to IUCN data only one animal has been definitely identified as having gone extinct since 2000. It was a mollusc.’

  106. James of North Melbourne permalink
    April 27, 2012 8:50 am

    This morning on the news they were talking about koalas becoming a protected species. Apparently their numbers are in danger due to (you guessed it) drought and climate change.

    I wonder if they realise the sheer numbers of people that just say “Oh fuck off” when that old mantra is repeated day after day.

  107. el gordo permalink
    April 27, 2012 8:57 pm

    Uh oh…

    ‘Dates on some of the copied vouchers are not legible, and the pick-up and drop-off descriptions tend to be vague, using terms such as “suburbs”, “city” and “airport”. On one docket, Mr Slipper is more specific, listing “Buderim”, his home suburb, as the pick-up point.

    ‘None of the dockets appear to specify what time Mr Slipper was in the vehicle.’

    Read more:

  108. Tony permalink
    April 27, 2012 9:12 pm

    You just know our native species are safe when the reverse-predicting perfessor is forecasting their demise.

  109. el gordo permalink
    April 27, 2012 9:38 pm

    Flummery wanders around the world talking nonsense at taxpayers expense.

  110. armchair opinionator permalink
    April 27, 2012 10:13 pm

    Outrage as Egypt plans ‘farewell intercourse law’ so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives up to six hours after their death
    PUBLISHED: 09:28 GMT, 26 April 2012 | UPDATED: 11:06 GMT, 27 April 2012

    Read more:

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