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Rostrum: Special “OMG I can’t find the words to tell you how sorry I am” Edition.

May 25, 2012
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Hello

And good afternoon.

This weekend is intergalactic national, international and intergenerational “sorry day,” when genetically mutated sunflower seeds and canola oil recognise, and cordially apologise for, the wrongdoings and injustices inflicted upon microcosmic larvae that once inhabited a remote swampland on Himalia, one of Jupiter’s many moons.  Children everywhere will make small soft toys from navel fluff, bees wax and other household waste and exchange them with each other while singing songs and reciting “I’m just so, so, terribly, terribly sorry..”

Meanwhile back on Earth, renowned terrorist and threat to global civilisation, world peace, our democracy, and even our very way of life Schapelle Corby is still to come to terms with the news that she could be home soon.

Corby’s sentence could end as early as 2015 if she is awarded the maximum eight months per year in remissions over the next two to three years.

The 34-year-old, known in Indonesia as the “Marijuana Queen”, could be out of Bali’s Kerbunkular jail even sooner, and possibly as early as this year, if she is granted parole or approved for a prison program of “asimilasi”, or assimilation, designed to allow well-behaved inmates to reintegrate with society.

Yoko Ono, an official at the Justice and Human Rights Ministry, said Corby would be eligible for parole in September.

 And of course in other news, the Craig Thomson continues to lurch on….

Have a top weekend everybodies….!

 

reb.

 

 

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  1. May 25, 2012 2:09 pm

    Hey! Go easy! Schapelle might make a very good Prime Minister. At least better than the one currently in waiting in the NO Coalition. She’s got the qualiifications — she says No a lot. Like: No I didn’t bring marrryjeewaaanaaa into Indonesia. No it was someone else’s, etc.

  2. JAWS permalink
    May 25, 2012 3:31 pm

    If Schapelle can just get parole in Bali she’ll be all set for a life with a pretty good lifestyle in assisted housing in a wonderful tranquil land, adorned with great wealth, supported for free, She’ll also be clothed and paid to shop within days of her release on taxpayer funds.

    All she needs to do is catch a leaky boat from Indonesia to Christmas Island

  3. el gordo permalink
    May 25, 2012 4:04 pm

    Intergalactic Nooze

    Recent sighting in Switzerland

  4. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 25, 2012 4:43 pm

    If true I think this is wrong

    http://www.news.com.au/business/ginas-army-overseas-workers-take-mining-jobs/story-e6frfm1i-1226367122453

    THE federal government has unveiled an historic agreement with mining magnate Gina Rinehart to import overseas workers to fill jobs in her iron ore project in Western Australia.

    The enterprise migration agreement (EMA) will be first used at the mining magnate’s $6.5 billion Roy Hill project, allowing Hancock Prospecting to bring in 1700 migrant workers on a temporary basis.

    What is wrong with employing our own people??

  5. TB Queensland permalink
    May 25, 2012 4:49 pm

    The Mothership is closer now but I have not been in contact for some time … I have passed the information on … all UFO camera persons seem to have difficulty holding a camera steady … you humans :mrgreen:

  6. TB Queensland permalink
    May 25, 2012 4:54 pm

    For once I agree, Noddy!

    ==================================

    I’m also angry at the removal of the annual, free, repatriation return flight for single soldiers to their depot of enlistment … (from their current posting) …

    Married soldiers recieve up to six flights (stand to be corrected?) if so a fairer way would have been to remove one of these flights … HOWEVER! Why remove ANY!

    Just to bring the budget into surplus … bunch of fkn morons …

    Soldiers would have signed a contract and this has obviously been breached …

  7. cassiekey permalink
    May 25, 2012 5:17 pm

    Deknarf, to be fair, Thomson says no a lot too, no I did not commit those 186 or whatever it was findings, so he must be closing in on Abbotts and Corbys no’s.

  8. May 25, 2012 5:54 pm

    Apparently teh unions arent very happy with Julia’s plan to ship in wealthy migrants to help out with Gina’s army….

  9. JAWS permalink
    May 25, 2012 5:59 pm

    “Apparently teh unions arent very happy with Julia’s plan to ship in wealthy migrants to help out with Gina’s army….”

    Well Swanee must be livid.

    I can se him now waiting with his “Welcome Message” at the Inbound Customs Barrier waiting eagerly to give them his welcome of…………….

    “You rich piece of shit…………………You wealthy cnut ………..I am going to tax you so fucking heavily………….. just you wait until my next Budget…………”

  10. May 25, 2012 6:01 pm

    Eloquently put, as always Jaws… 😉

  11. May 25, 2012 6:38 pm

    Ah, “cnut”, I see what you did there. 😉

  12. el gordo permalink
    May 25, 2012 7:55 pm

    Gina is on the money, this is her dream coming true.

    It’s the beginning of a grand adventure and I’m confident the young eager people from America, Spain and China will make it work.

    Anything Howes says on this matter is just old hat rhetoric, we have full employment and most residents prefer to stay in the cities and not some hot, fly blown camp on the surface of Mars.

  13. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 25, 2012 8:25 pm

    “and most residents prefer to stay in the cities and not some hot, fly blown camp on the surface of Mars.”

    Any evidence for that???

  14. May 25, 2012 8:36 pm

    Jabba likes the red centre. It reminds her of her palace on Tatooine. The only question is, how the fuck did it make its way from the bowels of the Sarlacc to being the richest beneficiary of hereditary largesse woman (allegedly) on Earth?! 😯

  15. el gordo permalink
    May 25, 2012 9:03 pm

    There appears to be a skill shortage and I think it’s Julia’s fault for not having the vision to train enough Australians in advance, the sector has been growing for years and nothing was being done. A quick google found me this..

    http://www.industrysearch.com.au/News/Mine-workers-harder-to-find-as-sector-bursts-at-seams–59890

  16. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 25, 2012 9:16 pm

    Not a good link El Gordo. The first post said this

    “greg belz | 19/05/2012 6:53:41 PM
    I am sick and tried of the dribble about the lack of trained staff , when myself and everybody I talk to ,from 25to 60 are about 800 in line to get a job on there site”

    Perhaps the mining bosses like fly ins because they are more easily handled. How long does it take to teach people how to do these jobs?? WE should be training our own people. A country that does look after its own is not a country.

  17. el gordo permalink
    May 25, 2012 9:41 pm

    ‘We should be training our own people.’

    I agree, but they have left it too late and its not my fault Neil.

  18. el gordo permalink
    May 25, 2012 9:49 pm

    They have been talking about skill shortages in WA for years, but politicians only paid lip service and failed to re-skill Australians for the task.

    ‘Research conducted by Ai Group and Deloitte in May 2010, found that one-third of company executives claimed that the risk of skills shortages restricting the effective operation of their businesses was ‘high or extreme’. The same research found two-thirds of companies surveyed had difficulty in filling vacancies.’

  19. Bacchus permalink
    May 25, 2012 10:53 pm

    hmmm… For a someone who claims to be “of the Labor left” *guffaw*, you sure seem to “forget” the previous decade el gordo 🙄

    Major players in the economy such as the Reserve Bank suggest there are significant reasons why skills shortages are a real worry. Anticipated demographic shifts caused by an ageing population in conjunction with skills shortages present a problem for the future. Warnings are given that unless government develops sound and long term policies and invests in education infrastructure to resolve the problem, Australia will not fare well in the future (Reserve Bank of Australia 1999, 2006a, 2006b).

    Australia’s economic boom over the past decade or more has been accompanied by a remarkable growth in the workforce, particularly in a range of professions. It is also worth noting that those who fill these positions require a degree-level qualification. Whilst these positions require a degree-level qualification, since 1996 we have seen a relatively small increase in the number of domestic Australian students commencing undergraduate training at Australian universities. One consequence of this has been the emergence of serious shortages of graduates in a number of vocationally specific areas, including the health, engineering and accounting professions (Birrell and Rapson 2006: 3).

    Kim Beazley also made the point:

    Is it not a fact that under this Prime Minister’s watch, Australia has reduced our public investment in TAFEs and universities by 7 percent—the only advanced economy to do so–while our global competitors have increased their investment by 48 per cent? (Beazley, Hansard 12 October 2007: 65-66)

    Investment in public education from primary to tertiary level has not been adequate to build a well-skilled and educated workforce. Recent OECD figures rank Australia 13th out of 33 nations for the proportion of GDP spent on education (OECD 2006: 170). Whereas Switzerland and the United States spend A$12,000 per student, Australia invests $7,500. The OECD figures suggest that in Australia, cumulative spending on educational institutions per student over average duration in tertiary studies was below the OECD average (OECD 2006:184).

    http://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/Economic-Labour-Relations-Review/201212650.html

  20. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 12:26 am

    Well when the richest woman in the world wants something, who can deny her? Certainly not any Australian government. Of course those foreign workers won’t be paid the same wages as Australians and there needs to be a special northern economic zone for paying less taxes. The foreign workers are important to the plan, because paying them less reduces the wages of the Aussie workers. Even betterer for Gina to become the richest person in the world.
    And besides you don’t understand the sacrifices people make to live in this special zone, there are snakes and cyclones and they are a long way from the cities. Not easy.

    Perhaps they should get a few stories in the media about the cost of housing in these mining towns and the social/community concerns of the harmful effects of a two-speed economy [oh wait, I might have seen something recently].

    http://www.andev-project.org/initial-andev-articles/

    http://www.andev-project.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Open-letter-to-The-Australian-Northern-economic-zone.pdf

  21. JAWS permalink
    May 26, 2012 12:43 am

    Sorry can I just mention who is actually to blame.
    We have all been diverted by Thomson and the Carbon Tax .
    There is another matter that has not been addressed for sometime ……..

    The Murdoch Media Military Mogul Mega Murder Massive
    industrial complex .

    I think we need to address the threat posed by the end of Sunday night.

    I mean he’s having such a great amount of luck changing the Australian govt at will

    Int he .!

  22. JAWS permalink
    May 26, 2012 1:26 am

    Kitty

    she is the most financially suuceesful woman alive.
    Why denigrate that.She started with a few mil and
    turned it into billions. You should be signing
    up to go and work with a mega successful sister on one
    of her mine site med Centres

    Yeah yeah usual negative response about don’t pay enuf tax o. Own a few houses etc etc. what about whales yeah yeah

  23. el gordo permalink
    May 26, 2012 6:45 am

    hmmm… For a someone who claims to be “of the Labor left” *guffaw*, you sure seem to “forget” the previous decade el gordo.

    Politicians of all persuasions have taken their eye off the ball when it came to preparing for the mining boom.

  24. el gordo permalink
    May 26, 2012 7:11 am

    It’s nothing…really….. Julia’s position as leader is solid…

    ‘When Ms Gillard returned from Chicago on Wednesday morning, she learnt that Mr Bowen and Mr Ferguson had granted Ms Rinehart her wish. The specific deal did not have to be run past cabinet and by the time Ms Gillard was informed, all necessary agreements had been signed and it was a fait accompli.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-in-the-dark-on-rinehart-visa-deal-20120525-1za4c.html#ixzz1vuyRRhAc

  25. el gordo permalink
    May 26, 2012 7:17 am

    Yep…the coup is just around the corner.

    ‘IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen has infuriated Julia Gillard and the nation’s most powerful union leaders after granting Gina Rinehart, the world’s richest woman, the right to import 1700 foreign workers for a massive West Australian iron ore project.

    ‘The scathing reaction from the unions over the decision to favour the mining magnate – while the government conducts a class war campaign against mining billionaires and vested interests to sell its “working families” budget – has exposed new divisions in the cabinet amid growing concerns about Julia Gillard’s leadership.’

  26. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 26, 2012 7:28 am

    “Politicians of all persuasions have taken their eye off the ball when it came to preparing for the mining boom.”

    I did not take much of in interest in politics until the 2007 election. But all I remember is the ALP and its supporters condemning Howard for everything he did.

    The mining boom started in 2004. ALP was elected in 2007. They have had almost 5 years to do something about skilled shortages and have done nothing.

    Flying in foreign workers is a disgrace. Five years is long enough for the ALP to have done something. Epic fail.

  27. Meta permalink
    May 26, 2012 7:45 am

    (Yes, it beggars belief that Australia’s world-class A(Q)TF and visa systems are now being impinged upon by a world beyond the Stop-the-X-line, Neil; to the extent that (un- or less-)skilled local labour is now apparently becoming intermeddled with skilled global labour to get stuff done. Assuredly, Australia’s foremost Welsh import, and her misbeggoten notions of the intrinsic virtues of education and the dignity of work, which she probably acquired from some Socialist One-World-Government outfit like the ILO, will be undone in this latest hybrid attack on Australians’ abilities to live, learn, and earn on, and from, the domestic and world stages.)

  28. TB Queensland permalink
    May 26, 2012 9:03 am

    Gina has some wonderful and innovative mining concepts too … I was particularly impressed by her suggestion to use nuclear weapons rather than conventional explosives to remove overburden and release the ore …

    … apart from the radiation, fusing and geophysical damage, experts needed to remind her that we live in a NUCLEAR FREE ZONE …

    Money doesn’t make you smart … surrounding yourself with smart people makes you money though … particularly if you OWN the business built by your old man …

    And as you know I don’t like long posts so I won’t comment on the lack of a national training agenda and how the National Training System has deteriorated since 1996 …

  29. cassiekey permalink
    May 26, 2012 9:13 am

    Re Gillard did not know about it till everything signed and sealed so to speak;

    The other day I looked up at the sky,wondering what all the screeching and squawking was about, and ther was a large flock of galah’s flipping and flapping all over the place, and I swear that the bird on the right looked a bit like Bowen, the one bringing up the rear looked like Wilkie, there over to the side were a couple flapping about on their own looked like Windsor and Oakeshott, and the one that thought it should be the leader looked exactly like Gillard.😏

  30. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 12:38 pm

    she is the most financially suuceesful woman alive. Why denigrate that.She started with a few mil and turned it into billions.

    I don’t denigrate her success,she is welcome to all that and more, I hope she is comforted by her financial success, she is even willing to fight her own children to have it. I just don’t think she needs ‘special tax treatment’ at the expense of other Australians.

    Does she really need special tax concessions, ones that guarantee her more billions in profits? While she is paying less, the rest of us have to pay more for the services that government should be funding for all.

    Rinehart heads a multi billion industry but gets subsidised by other poorer taxpayers. Is that really fair or even necessary?

  31. Meta permalink
    May 26, 2012 12:51 pm

    Is that really fair or even necessary?

    Probably not; why we could even (re)combine the Intergenerational Report, the Henry Review, the final Orgill Report, the Gonski Report, and Greens, or even just ‘sensible’ or ‘informed purchaser’, policies on subsidies withdrawals and tax-base expansions to reinvigorate constructive activity, (mining sector) productivity, and an education system obviously insufficient to meet Gina’s or ANDEVistan’s or Australia’s long-term best interests.

  32. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 26, 2012 12:54 pm

    Does she really need special tax concessions,”

    What specials tax concessions?? Perhaps Wayne Swan has been telling fibs again.

    Mining is a capital intensive industry. They are allowed like any business to write off purchasing trucks, digging equipment etc against income. As far as i know they do not get any special tax concessions. Likewise Qantas is allowed to write off their new A380’s against income because it is a legitimate expense.

    What special tax concessions are you talking about???

    And if she is making more profit the govt gets more money. Company profit is taxed at 30% in Australia. It really annoys me when people complain about the banks making enormous profits. Where the hell do you think Swan gets his income from?? If the banks made no profit Swan would not get any money to spend on welfare.

  33. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 1:05 pm

    As far as i know they do not get any special tax concessions.

    4 billion (and more) sounds like a lot of money to me, that could come in handy for other Australians who are not billionaires.

    Miners get $4b in direct subsidies, says think tank:

    The biggest single subsidy passing from the general public to miners comes in the form of fuel-tax credits, formerly named the diesel fuel rebate, which were valued at $1.89 billion in 2009-10, the institute’s report said…

    …The Australia Institute report only covers federal government subsidies, meaning that the true figure would be higher if state subsidies and incentives were taken into account…

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/miners-get-4b-in-direct-subsidies-says-think-tank-20120417-1x5m8.html#ixzz1vwPhJ6ba

  34. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 1:21 pm

    Download the report here if you want:

    Pouring Fuel on the Fire

    “…With the mining industry so profitable these subsidies are not supporting the industry, but instead are simply increasing the size of their profits and placing greater pressure on other industries such as manufacturing, tourism and education. Put simply, these subsidies represent a transfer of funds from taxpayers to the owners of mining companies operating in Australia – most of which are foreign owned. The usual economic justifications for subsidising an industry do not seem to apply to the mining industry in Australia and there has been little justification for such large public generosity…

  35. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 1:27 pm

    Where the hell do you think Swan gets his income from?? If the banks made no profit Swan would not get any money to spend on welfare.

    The taxpayers neil, government’s money comes from us, the taxpayers. Sectors earning super profits should be taxed more, not less, if they paid more, the rest of us would be paying less for welfare spending, health and education etc. They certainly don’t need to be subsidised by the poorer taxpayers.

  36. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 1:34 pm

    Company profit is taxed at 30% in Australia. It really annoys me when people complain about the banks making enormous profits.

    your point?

    aren’t company tax rates lower than personal tax rates neil?

    profits vs super profits?

  37. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 26, 2012 1:48 pm

    “The taxpayers neil,”

    I am not sure what percentage of Swans income comes from company tax compared to income tax but if the Commonwealth Bank made no profit Swan would get no money from the bank. If they make a $10B profit Swan gets 30% of that. The Bank also pays dividends from their profit which goes into our Superannuation accounts. Lots of Super funds have investments in Bank shares.

    Even if you are right about the fuel subsidy it may not make much difference. The article says the subsidy means the mining company makes a bigger profit. But if they make a bigger profit the govt gets more money because they get 30% of the profit. And Super funds benefit to. It may not make much difference.

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    May 26, 2012 2:41 pm

    If they make a $10B profit Swan gets 30% of that. The Bank also pays dividends from their profit which goes into our Superannuation accounts. Lots of Super funds have investments in Bank shares.

    Wally, I think this is where you explain accounting, superannuation, tax and the pigs with wings to, Noddy … I’ll pop back in a few hours …

  39. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 26, 2012 3:07 pm

    I am not sure what percentage of Swans income comes from company tax compared to income tax

    Of course you’re not neil, you never do seem to know (or want to know) the answers to the questions that mean you actually have to admit something you are ideologically opposed to. Pretty easy to find that stuff out,

    And ‘swan’s income is what he earns from his own personal salary, do you mean the Australian government’s income, which is from taxpayers?

    http://www.budget.gov.au/2012-13/content/overview/html/overview_42.htm

    2012 -2013
    Individuals income taxation: $163,050,000,000
    Company and resource rent taxes: $82,442,000,000

    Goodness, business doesn’t prop up this country does it? Those PAYG earners/taxpayers who don’t get to minimise their tax contributions are making a good contribution. Might even be those damned public servants that you lot are always running down and wanting to cut the jobs of.

    It is interesting to note that social security & welfare is mostly assistance to the aged as opposed to the myth of the dole bludger/unemployed. Family tax benefits are a very high contribution, and non-Government schools receive more government funding than Government schools.

    Does anyone know the breakdown of the number of students enrolled in govt vs non-govt schools?

    even wiki has some info.

    …Income received by individuals is taxed at progressive rates, while income derived by companies is taxed at a flat rate of 30%…

    Another point neil, foreign ownership, where do those profits go? Does it stay in australia and ‘trickle down” to the subsidising taxpayer?

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4009802.html

    Goliath Greed :
    15 May 2012 8:00:59am
    …The mining industry is fond of arguing that Australian households benefit from the mining boom through increased prices for their shares, which are held either directly by households or indirectly through superannuation funds. While it is true that there have been some large gains in mining share prices (up to 170 per cent in the S&P/ASX Resources index since 2004), it is also the case that share ownership in Australia is largely confined to higher income households. The wealthiest 20 per cent of households own 86 per cent of shares, and a very small number of shareholders own substantial holdings in Australian mining companies.

    For example, 67 individual shareholders own 68 per cent of all Rio Tinto shares. Similarly, 78 shareholders own 59 per cent of BHP.

    The median fund balance in superannuation among those about to retire is $71,731. A fall in the value of Australian mining activity of ten per cent would only cost that group around 0.4 per cent of their fund balance—that is, a fall of around $287. This is because the average super fund, with 43 per cent of its funds invested in Australian shares, only has around four per cent of its portfolio exposed to the Australian mining sector.

    Such a reduction can be contrasted with the average monthly movement of the ASX 200 share price index, which would shift a balance of $71,000 by around $1403 a month. For the typical superannuant, everyday share market fluctuations have a much greater material impact on retirement savings than the amount of profits or made tax paid by mining companies… [apologies for length of that quote, but it is very informative]

  40. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 26, 2012 4:10 pm

    And ‘swan’s income is what he earns from his own personal salary, do you mean the Australian government’s income, which is from taxpayers?

    Sorry about the confusion. When I mentioned the money Swan gets I was talking about the Government income he gets from taxpayers. According to your figures Company tax contributed about 30% of Government income.

  41. May 26, 2012 4:21 pm

    GO THE MFKN TIGERS!

  42. May 26, 2012 5:25 pm

    I 2ND THAT!!!

    Great fkn win!

    Hopefully the Crows will give those black & white cnuts a hiding later tonight…just for posterity, mind.

  43. Tony permalink
    May 26, 2012 6:04 pm

    😯 😉

  44. Tony permalink
    May 26, 2012 6:34 pm

    Gee, who saw that coming? 🙄

    ‘With the hopes for a comprehensive global carbon treaty all but crushed, American greens have largely moved on to a new environmental threat: fracking.’

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/05/24/frack-to-save-the-planet/

  45. Tony permalink
    May 26, 2012 6:39 pm

    ‘We discussed the economy and noted that obviously the United States and Spain are both working diligently to put our people back to work and recover from what has been the worst recession in decades. And so we have enormous commercial ties between our two countries and we pledged to work diligently to strengthen them, particularly around key issues like renewable energy and transportation, where Spain has been a worldwide leader and the United States I think has enormous potential to move forward.’

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-President-Obama-and-President-Zapatero-of-Spain-after-meeting/

    ‘The most draconian spending cuts on record are plunging Spain’s cities and highways into darkness as ministries and mayors struggle to pay for basic services. Public lighting is one of the more visible casualties of the hard times.’

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-10/lights-go-out-in-spain-as-cuts-plunge-highways-into-darkness.html

  46. Tony permalink
    May 26, 2012 6:51 pm

    Barack Obama Punishes People for Getting High; It Used to Be, He Punished Them for Not Getting High Enough

    http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/25/barack-obama-punishes-people-for-getting

  47. Tony permalink
    May 26, 2012 7:15 pm

    ‘Few people outside NSW would remember a certain National Union of Workers boss found to have spent around $1300 from his union credit card on hookers back in 1988, at the famous Sydney establishment A Touch of Class. He was forced to resign in 2003.

    ‘One bad egg, they said at the time, spoiling the cake.

    ‘The Municipal Employees Union, which later became the United Services Union, had been up to it as well. In 1998, an audit by KPMG raised questions about $180,000 the union spent on two national conferences in the mid-90s – one held at Penrith Panthers and another at Coffs Harbour. An inquiry heard that $40,000 had been unaccounted for, and appeared to have been spent on strippers and prostitutes in what could only be justified as some sort of coital relief from the boredom of their national conference.The scandal surrounding the HSU isn’t the first to rock the bruvvers. But the Thomson affair – or at least its public outing – started the wrong way around: after Thomson left the union and became an MP. The Gillard government was infected with it from the beginning.

    ‘What is worse is that it knew about it.’

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/simonbenson/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/comedy_of_errors_ends_in_tears_for_the_believers/

  48. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 26, 2012 7:52 pm

    It is possible that what this shows is that people are corrupt. When humans have access to easy money they will abuse it.

  49. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 26, 2012 8:13 pm

    Back in my day unions were frugal.
    ========
    It’s grean to see Hawthorn lose, even if is to Richmond.

    Pity about St Kilda.

  50. Tony permalink
    May 27, 2012 1:53 am

    PHOTOS: Dragon arrives at space station:

    ‘The International Space Station’s robotic arm on Friday reached out and snared a cargo carrier built by SpaceX, making history after the privately-built Dragon spacecraft made a cautious laser-guided approach to the complex, becoming the first commercial spaceship to reach the massive scientific research facility.’

    http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon9/003/rendezvous/

  51. Tony permalink
    May 27, 2012 2:02 am

    Astronauts on the space station say the air on ‪#Dragon‬ has a “new car smell” pic.twitter.com/5AR13rQc

    “Well, it’s only got 250 miles on the clock.”

  52. Tony permalink
    May 27, 2012 2:07 am

    Astronaut Andre Kuipers‘s Photostream:

    Teamwork in the Cupola during Dragon approach.

  53. May 27, 2012 9:49 am

    I see there is no leadership speculation again.

  54. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 27, 2012 10:14 am

    For some reason ALP supporters do not condemn Gillards power at any cost attitude. She lied to Wilkie and lied about the carbon tax to win govt. Now Wilke is upset.

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/i-feel-used-like-a-total-pawn-andrew-wilkie-says/story-e6frfku0-1226368103940

    “INDEPENENT MP Andrew Wilkie said he has had only two meetings with Prime Minister Julia Gillard since the collapse of the pokie reforms deal and their relationship will never be the same.

    Mr Wilkie said that when they were in negotiations, he felt the prime minister had being using him like a chess piece, Fairfax Media reports.

    “You do feel used,” he said.”

  55. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 27, 2012 10:37 am

    Joel Fitzgibbon is obviously on the payroll of Murdoch if he’s switched to Rudd.

    So is Andrew Wilkie, because he’s publicly objecting to the fact that Gillard broke a written agreement with him.

    Paul Howes, who announced on the 7.30 Report that Gillard was to be the new PM, has also switched to Murdoch. Because he’s critical of the labour importation policy.

    Doug Cameron is also after a job with Murdoch apparently.

    So is Bill Kelty, because he suggested the ALP stop blaming the media and try honesty instead.

    Did I mention that the lying slut Kathy Jackson is part of the entire conspiracy?

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 12:38 pm

    ToSY, in the interests of “balance” … and because I know what a champion of “small government” you are … I thought that you and your “followers” might be interested in the economics of “free enterprise’s first spacecraft” … it seems the success of profit making ventures without “large government” assistance, nothing much would happen in the land of capitalism …

    SpaceX is the first of several US competitors to try sending its own cargo-bearing spacecraft to the ISS with the goal of restoring US access to space for human travelers by 2015.

    The company made history with its Dragon launch in December 2010, becoming the first commercial outfit to send a spacecraft into orbit and back.

    Until now, only the space agencies of Russia, Japan and Europe have been able to send supply ships to the ISS.

    The United States had that capacity too, with its iconic space shuttle that long served as part astronaut bus, part delivery truck for the lab.

    But the 30-year shuttle program ended for good in 2011, leaving Russia as the sole taxi for astronauts to the ISS until private industry could come up with a replacement.

    SpaceX has benefited from NASA dollars in its quest but has also poured its own money into the endeavour.

    SpaceX and Orbital Sciences Corporation both have billion-dollar contracts with NASA to supply cargo to the ISS in the coming years, and they get NASA funds in exchange for meeting key milestones in their projects.

    NASA has given SpaceX about $US390 million ($396 million) so far of the total $US680 million SpaceX has spent on cargo development, Ms Shotwell said.

    SpaceX also gets funding from NASA on a separate effort to develop a commercial crew vehicle for carrying astronauts to space, along with competitors Blue Origin, Boeing and Sierra Nevada.

    In a few years’ time, Ms Shotwell said she hopes SpaceX will be able to undercut the hefty price NASA pays Russia for US astronauts to get a seat aboard the Soyuz space capsule – around $US63 million a ticket.

    With seven seats aboard the Dragon capsule, she said SpaceX could someday offer that to NASA for $US140 million per mission – about $20 million per seat.

  57. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 1:03 pm

    I’m afraid the Gina Rinehart, imports “deal” has tipped me over the edge … “my” ALP does not do deals with Robber Barons at the expense of fellow Australians … 1700 workers … trained to our literacy, numeracy and competency standards and we can’t find/train them here … I don’t think so …

    … couple that with the way they have removed the “return to home” flights for single service personnel”, an obvious demonstration of the lack of understanding of the psychology and built in support for serving sons and daughters of ADF families …

    … and … bringing back Rudd won’t improve the government – only its numbers … one of the reasons (only one, of a number, if I recall), Rudd was dislodged in the first place was the dysfunction of his Cabinet …

    … at this stage I’d vote for Liberal, National or Greens if any of them could field a decent leader who could represent my country domestically and on the world stage … at this stage the red felt marker across my voting slip is my best option …

    … this country is bereft of competent politicians … a sad indictment on our society …

  58. Tony permalink
    May 27, 2012 1:36 pm

    “… this country is bereft of competent politicians … a sad indictment on our society …”

    I agree with the first part, but I’m not ready to pin the blame on our society. There has to be something very wrong with a system that inflicts on us such a pack of self-serving tnucs.

  59. Tony permalink
    May 27, 2012 2:05 pm

    The intuitive reaction when the quality of politicians is discussed is to wonder if paying them more would get us better ones. Here’s an idea: how about we don’t pay them at all? At least we’d get rid of those who see politics as a career path and replace them with people who wish to serve the community.

  60. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 2:20 pm

    At least we’d get rid of those who see politics as a career path and replace them with people who wish to serve the community.

    The “devil’s advocate” reply to that, is that if you look now many of our Fed pollies ARE rich … and while it would be noice to think that they are civic minded … the cynic in me (you’ve met him before) says they are in it for power and more money …

    … better to have a properly developed, minimum, set of work, life and management competencies that each candidate must comply with, before they set foot on the hustings … that just might attract a better candidate too … and while it may appear to give the LibNats some advantage … you may be surprised at the number of managers and small business owners who actually support the principles that the ALP was founded upon …

    … talk about lost its friggin’ way!

  61. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 27, 2012 3:16 pm

    A lot of the Federal politicians have never had a job in the real world. And this especially applies for ALP politicians.

    Most of them have had taxpayer funded jobs or Union jobs where the money comes from donations. They have never had jobs in private industry.

  62. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 3:28 pm

    Sigh…………………….!

  63. May 27, 2012 3:29 pm

    Talcum for PM!

  64. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 4:01 pm

    I’ll vote for either side if they have the right policies.

  65. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 4:12 pm

    Went to a large Palestinian wedding on Saturday and danced the night away…these Australians really know how to enjoy themselves.

    Chatting to an old friend he said his nephew was serving time in Bali prison when Corby first turned up and later the gang of nine. This young man helped Corby to clean up her act with a hairdresser etc. before confronting the media or off to court.

    Obviously I am now able to reveal the reality, if anyone is interested I’ll be taking questions from the floor.

  66. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 4:57 pm

    I’m afraid the Gina Rinehart, imports “deal” has tipped me over the edge … “my” ALP does not do deals with Robber Barons at the expense of fellow Australians … 1700 workers … trained to our literacy, numeracy and competency standards and we can’t find/train them here … I don’t think so …

    Labor has completely capitulated to industry TB, what more evidence do we need? This latest after the pokies fiasco, time to give both Labor and Liberal a miss I think, neither are worth a vote IMO.
    One minute Gillard’s mob is talking about opportunity but as soon as the ‘market’ opportunity is in the worker’s favour they allow business to change the rules and completely distort the same market that they idolise for profits and CEO/Executive wages etc .

    Labor’s bootstraps look more like this.

  67. May 27, 2012 5:02 pm

    Doug Cameron strikes me as one of the last true Labor people left in the party.

    Julia and Shorten are just as self-serving as anyone over at the Libs…

  68. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:17 pm

    not sure about that reb

    http://enpassant.com.au/

    …We need to be careful not to slip in to racism and xenophobia over this. That is the approach ALP left winger and Senator Doug Cameron is taking, counterposing Chinese workers to Australian workers. He said:

    “The very week when workers are being given their marching orders out of a job at
    Kurri Kurri [aluminium smelter in New South Wales] and Tullamarine, 1700 Chinese
    workers are given the go-ahead to march into Western Australia.”

    Actually the overseas workers can come from any country, not just China. And they can only be employed if Australians cannot be found for the jobs. I know the bosses will abuse that but to conjure up racist images of Chinese workers marching into Australia is the desperate cry of a political and industrially bankrupt politician and unionist on a path to nowhere.

    So instead of class struggle to defend jobs he raises race as the defining issue. Shame, Doug Cameron, shame…

  69. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:17 pm

    “Julia and Shorten are just as self-serving as anyone over at the Libs…”

    I think the Libs care about Australia more than Labor does. And I still think the Howard/Costello govt was one of the better govts we have had.

    For some reason which i cannot work out they lost the 2007 election. It was most probably due to Workchoices and the smear campaign Labor produced.

    And I still cannot work out why people hated Howard so much.

    If there was any wrong doing/corruption it would have come out by now. It always does.

  70. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:18 pm

    For some reason my comment just disappeared into the spaminator, I don’t know why

  71. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:21 pm

    thanks for fixing my previous comment mess kamahl, now I just need you to check the spam box 😆

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:23 pm

    I think the Libs care about Australia more than Labor does

    You do a lot of thinking, Noddy, but reach some very odd conclusions …

    I THINK you need to post on a blog more appropriate to your age …

    http://www.hellokids.com/t_2856/blogs-for-kids

    Is, Noddy, a simpleton or just playing a part? I’m buggered if I can work it out … 🙄

  73. May 27, 2012 5:29 pm

    comment retrieved KL…. 🙂

  74. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:36 pm

    Here is one example of why I detest Labor supporters. They blasted Howard for having children in detention. Well Howard did something about it and moved them into community housing. Howard then stopped the boats so there was almost no-one in detention. Only 6 in 2007. What about now???

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/free-children-in-detention/story-e6frgd0x-1226366145878

    “The Labor government has dismantled the border protection measures inherited from the Coalition government. As a result we are again witnessing a growing number of children as immigration prisoners in Australia. The assurances given by the Prime Minister that no children will be held in detention centres have proved to be hollow. More than 420 children are in detention despite the fact that there are community-based alternatives, as demonstrated by some 690 children at present living in community facilities.”

    Where are all the people who protested against children in detention when Howard was in power??????

    It seems to me that Labor supporters only create trouble when the Coalition is in power. When their own are in power they keep very quiet even when the ALP commits immoral acts.

  75. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:37 pm

    I think the Libs care about Australia more than Labor does
    You do a lot of thinking, Noddy, but reach some very odd conclusions

    i know TB, i thought about a reply then after reading repeats of the same old, same old, (last two sentences) decided it wasn’t worth it. Propaganda alert. Funny how the barrackers at Lib HQ rush in as soon as you mention the Libs aren’t worth a vote.

    Do you think Abbott will take the opportunity to try and divide the government on Gina?
    I don’t think so (since he would do the same, no he would act even more in Rinehart’s favour). Abbott will be strangely silent on the issue and let the unions do the work.

    I’d like to see someone organise the entire Australian workforce to go on strike, to let the Laberals know that we are not happy with either of them.

  76. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:39 pm

    G’day KL …

    Labor’s bootstraps look more like this.

    LOL! Might be lost on a few … very droll!

    So instead of class struggle to defend jobs he raises race as the defining issue. Shame, Doug Cameron, shame…

    Yeah, I agree Kitty … I think my comment above was more appropriate re competencies …

  77. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:53 pm

    It seems to me that Labor supporters only create trouble when the Coalition is in power. When their own are in power they keep very quiet even when the ALP commits immoral acts.

    You really do have extremely limited comprehension powers, Noddy … go out and play in the traffic …

  78. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:56 pm

    Abbott will be strangely silent on the issue and let the unions do the work.

    If I were Abbott, 😯 that’s exactly what I would do …

    Let the ALP implode AGAIN!

    But then I’m NOT Abbott … 😉

  79. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 5:57 pm

    Here’s a fun poll…I voted for ‘someone else’ and I’m not alone.

    http://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/who-replaces-tony-abbott/#comments

  80. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:01 pm

    neil at lib HQ thinks he has a reason to exhort people to vote for the Libs, because they are better at locking innocents up and they allow the Feds to sabotage the boats so they never leave Indonesia or sink before they reach our excised shores 😆

    I always have the same feeling about the boat debate. I cannot fathom how people can separate or disconnect their thinking on this. We can have a huge outpouring of rage, compassion and hysteria about an historical and entrenched animal cruelty industry within slaughter houses and the live export trade. Yet Australians demand that people, the human flotsam and jetsam of this world, be locked up indefinitely until they go mad and can serve no useful purpose or function to themselves and society any longer. Why not just shoot them dead as they arrive, it would be quicker and cheaper wouldn’t it? Would that make people happier?

  81. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:21 pm

    Good catch Tony…does Julia know about this?

    ‘From an empirical standpoint, fracking has a much better track record at reducing emissions than the current green dream.’

  82. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:30 pm

    Abbott’s crass logic: trash the Parliament in order save it

    …An email was sent to almost every politician in Australia this week saying that someone should cut off Julia Gillard’s head and s**t down her neck. Politicians receive emails like this quite often…

    …And the people who are angriest – and most unhinged – are the people who have got it into their head that Australia is no longer a democracy…

    …This government is not illegitimate. It is no less legitimate than the Howard Government was in its second term, when Labor won the popular vote at the 1998 poll but not enough seats to govern…

    …And since that day, with increasing shrillness and recklessness, he has acted as if he’s the spokesman for the disenfranchised and dispossessed, the little people who don’t have a voice, even though our excellent system of government ensures they all get a vote in a year’s time, if not sooner…

    The same angry people, the old, middle to high income males, why are they so angry all the time?

    http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=291940

    Australia’s most successful paper lashes its critics:

    …Because it has achieved the goal of every media outlet in the world: to become one with its audience. The Oz no longer represents its key demographic — old middle and higher income males — it has become its key demographic.

    This explains the toothless savaging of critics, and its assertion-based coverage of issues like climate change. Like the cranky old men on the Sunshine Coast that form its readership, The Australian is permanently angry, not so much about individual matters per se, but about the whole world, which infuriatingly refuses to stop changing…

  83. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:31 pm

    Yet Australians demand that people, the human flotsam and jetsam of this world, be locked up indefinitely

    Not all, KL, some of us were around when the South Vietnam refugees started arriving … I doubt that any of us will forget that ..

    The only issue I have ever had is young men arriving from battle zones were our young men and women are engaged … and die …

    … if you want freedom then you fight for it … you don’t let others do it for you …

    Fracking IS dangerous to water tables … we have the biggest in the world!

  84. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:35 pm

    ‘… talk about lost its friggin’ way!’

    Yes…after the last election when they formed a minority government.

  85. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:40 pm

    Let the ALP implode AGAIN!

    Yep. they just keep doing this time and time again. Can’t seem capable of preparing people by way of public policy debate, they rush it out and then wonder why they get a backlash. This latest shows that Julia Gillard is just being used, the boys are doing what they want, when they want, and not even acknowledging her as their puppet leader anymore. She may as well not exist.

    No wonder they couldn’t cop control freak Rudd!

  86. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:40 pm

    ‘Fracking IS dangerous to water tables …’

    Do you have a link for that?

    In NSW the Greens and Nats are trying to stop fracking on agricultural land and I support them.

  87. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 6:58 pm

    …Julia Gillard is just being used, the boys are doing what they want, when they want…

    Notice it is usually when she is out of the country or trying to get off the floor after another full on assault from Abbott.

    But when it all goes to shit, she’s the muggins that has to stand in front of the cameras and cop the flak, you don’t even see them peeking out from behind her skirts, she has the guts they don’t possess. The cowards who are so incompetent and inept are nowhere to be seen then. And we never see Mar’n Ferguson why does he hide?

  88. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 7:00 pm

    ‘And we never see Mar’n Ferguson why does he hide?’

    Might be busy organising the numbers.

  89. TB Queensland permalink
    May 27, 2012 7:10 pm

    Do you have a link for that?

    Your not that ignorant, egg … take your pick …

    https://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=34&gs_id=3q&xhr=t&q=fracking+dangerous+to+water+tables&pf=p&newwindow=1&sclient=psy-ab&oq=fracking+dangerous+to+water+tables&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=15db4c69ac1182f7&biw=1642&bih=909

  90. May 27, 2012 7:21 pm

    I think you mean “You’re not that ignorant…”

    🙄

  91. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 8:10 pm

    Tony will have something to say about this.

  92. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 27, 2012 8:39 pm

    “You really do have extremely limited comprehension powers, Noddy … go out and play in the traffic …”

    Well do you have any other reason other than the one I mentioned as to why very few people are condemning the ALP locking up children?? Howard released children from detention and then stopped the boats. We still took 14,000 asylum seekers but we picked which ones. The people smugglers are now choosing for us.

    I will say it again. When their own are in power they keep very quiet even when the ALP commits immoral acts.

    I have never met a more tribal group of people than the ALP and its supporters. They almost never cross the floor in parliament and the few that do are expelled.

  93. el gordo permalink
    May 27, 2012 9:46 pm

    Neil is correct…from wiki.

    ‘In Australia, one of the major parties (the Australian Labor Party) forbids its members from crossing the floor, while amongst other parties it is rare. Senator Barnaby Joyce of the National Party of Australia however, crossed the floor 19 times under the Howard coalition government.

    ‘However, the record for crossing the floor in the Australian Parliament goes to Tasmanian Senator Sir Reg Wright, who voted against his own party (the Liberal Party of Australia) on 150 occasions.’

  94. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 11:01 pm

    I have never met a more tribal group of people than the ALP and its supporters. They almost never cross the floor in parliament and the few that do are expelled.

    It’s no big deal and no surprise neil. It just reflects the different core ideology, Labor and collectivism go hand in hand, can’t espouse strength in numbers and then allow individual voting that goes against the collective whole. I can’t see that there is anything to criticise, it is official Labor Party policy, do you want them to be expelled from the party just so you can feel better about your ideology? No-one forced them to join.

    The LibNats can get pretty tribal too (you wouldn’t feel very secure being an openly gay person with people like heffernan around). How would you feel being a muslim or coming from a refugee background, after they race bash and bait all the time?

    The libs pride themselves on individualism – you can’t say be an individual and then not allow them to vote as an individual can you? Although these days there is very little individualism expressed in the liberal party they don’t cross the floor too much – when was the last time? Perhaps a conscience vote, but they don’t even get to have that from Abbott (gay marriage). remember Howard and “disunity is death”.

    Party unity is anti-democratic in my opinion. MPs should reflect the wishes of their constituents, not the party or even the individual MP’s opinion. They should bring the voice and opinion of their electorate to the party and not the other way around as happens now.

    Senator Barnaby Joyce of the National Party of Australia however, crossed the floor 19 times under the Howard coalition government.

    there’s crossing the floor and crossing the floor.

    Did any of them matter much to the actual outcome? Or were they a token stroll across the floor to appease his country voters who don’t always feel well represented in the Liberal Party coalition (the reason for some Independents). If he crossed the floor when the numbers were very tight and his vote meant the motion was lost for his party, I would think it was pretty good.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/the-lost-art-of-crossing-the-floor/2006/08/11/1154803093733.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2

    “…And of the 245 MPs who crossed the floor during the 54 years, only 28 were from the Labor Party. The reason is that Labor MPs are bound by a formal party pledge to support the collective decisions of their parliamentary caucus. To flout the pledge is to risk expulsion from the party…

    …The research paper notes that whether Labor was in government or not, its 28 MPs crossed the floor on only 18 occasions. The 227 Coalition MPs who crossed the floor did so on 427 occasions. And Coalition MPs were much more likely to cross the floor when they were in government than in opposition, whereas there was no difference for Labor…

  95. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 27, 2012 11:18 pm

    Having said that, at least barnaby is willing to express the view of his constituents rather than toe the party line, however futile the outcome.

  96. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 6:30 am

    Barnaby is still looking for a lower house seat and the party will presumably offer Bruce Scott a diplomatic post…essentially a bribe. Scott says he’s fit and prepared to carry on.

    ‘a token stroll across the floor to appease his country voters who don’t always feel well represented in the Liberal Party’

    That’s true and in NSW we already hear the rumblings of discontent, the fracking. If push comes to shove I can see the agrarian socialists becoming top dog in the coalition, with the help of the green vote.

  97. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 6:42 am

    ”It was inconceivable her office wasn’t up to their neck in this,” said one minister. ”Of course she knew,” said another.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/pm-questioned-over-rinehart-workers-deal-20120527-1zd7a.html#ixzz1w6XlSdOT

    Clearly, the leader is incompetent.

  98. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 6:54 am

    If TB has turned his back on the party over this issue, then he’s not on his Robinson Caruso.

    ‘…union leaders last night intensified their attacks on the government for granting Gina Rinehart the right to import 1700 foreigners for her massive Roy Hill iron ore project in Western Australia.’

    So the future is an influx of foreign workers, no matter what party is governing. I cheer this prospect.

  99. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 7:21 am

    The Rudd Push is organising a bigger gang this time and are determined to win. Fitsy was spotted having coffee with the Ruddster in a small country town.

    http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/politics/singleton-meeting-linked-to-rudd-leadership-plot/2570319.aspx?src=rss

  100. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 8:25 am

    ‘THE National Party has vowed to run a candidate in the federal NSW seat of Hume despite the Leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott, sending a blunt message yesterday that he wanted the Liberal candidate, Angus Taylor, in Parliament alongside him.

    ‘Hume has been held by the Liberal MP Alby Schultz since 1998 but he is retiring at the next election, so both Coalition parties are entitled to vie for the seat.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/stoush-looms-between-liberals-and-nationals-in-hume-20120527-1zd70.html#ixzz1w6yQzR2L

  101. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 9:20 am

    Follow hot on the heels of so many “media beat-ups”*, there is now new “inaccurate media speculation” , about a leadership challenge.

    As we recall, last time he challenged, Rudd was entirely happy being Foreign Minister. Now he’s content on the backbench, and any report to the contrary is ”baseless speculation”.

    *Past “media beat-ups” include-
    • The carbon “non tax”
    • Thomson has “no case to answer”
    • Gillard wanted to knife Rudd
    • That Gillard was about to knife Wilkie
    • Rudd was leaking to the media in the 2010 election
    • Rudd wanted to knife Gillard

    It’s about time we all blamed the media for reporting these factual stories that are so embarrassing to the government.

  102. JAWS permalink
    May 28, 2012 9:44 am

    “………….this is because the average super fund, with 43 per cent of its funds invested in Australian shares, only has around four per cent of its portfolio exposed to the Australian mining sector……….”

    More Ill informed journo’s who don’t actually like to provide the entire story.

    How about companies like Leightons, Boeart Longyear or Incitec Pivot just to name 3 who ARE NOT included in the Mining Index.

    Leightons build mines on behalf on mining companies.
    Boeart Longyear own drilling platforms…………………..guess what they drill for ?
    Incitec Pivot manufacture explosives which are not used for on Sydney Harbour on New Years Eve. So I wonder what they blow up then ?

    And they are not included in the Mining Index. And that’s just 3. There are hundreds of Companies relying on Mining. How about the owners of the bulk coal loaders scattered along the coast line. What about Queensland Rail. That’s right they are in the Transport Index.

    Seriously I’d show the door to someone who tried to convince me that the Mining impact on the ASX is so low.

  103. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 10:13 am

    Remember ABC (Anyone But Crean)?

    I’ve just come across GROG (Get Rid Of Gillard). That’s nice, but I’m sure it’s all just media speculation.

  104. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2012 10:19 am

    So the future is an influx of foreign workers, no matter what party is governing. I cheer this prospect.

    Please explain? (Why?)

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Seriously I’d show the door to someone who tried to convince me that the Mining impact on the ASX is so low.

    That was quite well put, Wally … succinct and reasonably explanatory all in one hit … but somehow I suspect, Noddy, will struggle with the concept of the Multiplier Effect too …

    … guess which industry employed this ex-training consultant … and I never lifted a shovel … 🙂 (drove a coal hauler or three though …)

  105. TB Queensland permalink
    May 28, 2012 10:21 am

    Your and You’re – the Apostrophe Police??? 😯

    That’s appauling appalling 😆 😆

  106. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 10:43 am

    Here here…..

  107. May 28, 2012 10:49 am

    (I need a comment de-spaminated, if Kamahl’s reading.)

  108. May 28, 2012 10:56 am

    de-spaminated.

  109. May 28, 2012 11:05 am

    Billionaires? Then shouldn’t we be demonising them?

    Slideshow: Space-Chase Billionaires: Some of the terrestrial world’s wealthiest men are backing private spacecraft.

  110. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 11:17 am

    ‘Please explain? (Why?)’

    Why not, they will be paid union wages no matter what Cameron says.

  111. el gordo permalink
    May 28, 2012 11:27 am

    Guest workers will grow our country, once they get a taste for the wide open spaces.

  112. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 28, 2012 11:35 am

    Seems if you’ve got skills and are looking for work you are not welcome but if you’re in love with our welfare system, have no papers and no skills then then you are a preferred immigrant in some quarters and there is an army of lawyers to go into bat for you.

  113. JAWS permalink
    May 28, 2012 12:02 pm

    “Guest workers will grow our country, once they get a taste for the wide open spaces.”

    LOL

    Yes Eg…………….in fact I think there are a few precedents going back a few years.
    I mean “Fair Dinkum” what is all the fuss about………………..?

    “…The word “dinkum” was reputedly coined on the Australian goldfields. It comes from one of the Chinese dialects widely spoken at the diggings: “din” and “kum” loosely translating as “true gold”.

    “Din-gum” also means “good gold”. So over time the expression has become a positive response to a good news story…………”

    It is said that when Australian miners shouted across to the Chinese diggings.

    “Have you found any gold today ?”

    The response would come back as….

    “Fair Din-Gum”

    Their ya go kiddies……………..I hereby endeth your history lesson for today.

    Now get back to sledging…….

  114. May 28, 2012 12:47 pm

    ‘Seems if you’ve got skills and are looking for work you are not welcome’

    I’d like to see our borders open to all comers, on the understanding that no welfare of any kind would be available. (It’s funny how immigrants like Doug Cameron object to this kind of thing.)

  115. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 28, 2012 1:15 pm

    That was quite well put, Wally … succinct and reasonably explanatory all in one hit … but somehow I suspect, Noddy, will struggle with the concept of the Multiplier Effect too …

    I am not sure why I got a mention. Jaws was commenting on a post by Kittylitter.

    With regards to immigration, I tend to be against skilled immigration. We are an immigrant country. But the last thing you want is to bust your guts for 10 years to get a PhD or to train since birth the violin so you can play in some orchestra only to be denied a place by flyins.

  116. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 1:17 pm

    Slideshow: Space-Chase Billionaires: Some of the terrestrial world’s wealthiest men are backing private spacecraft.

    Their own exclusive gated community in space, how soon can it be developed?

    They obviously know that our resources are running out and future generations are in peril 😆

    FWA clears itself.

    Once more the Opposition gets away with making false and misleading statements o the public without being challenged by those holding the microphones.
    The serial liar “Labor appointed all the FWA personnel” Senator Eric Abetz, is very selective in his public information re FWA, he says the interference claims were ‘blown away’. Not so, the hearing, in my mind, raises more questions than it answers.

    I was watching that part of the estimates where Iain Ross said he had seen ‘no evidence of interference’ (doesn’t mean there is none) and he said that in any case, even if there was, it would have to be heard in a federal law court, FWA could not adjudicate on it.
    And apparently Lawler has given an oath as a judicial officer, so that is the end of it, his word is sacrosanct.

    Huh? excuse me, there are plenty of oath giving corrupt public officials who have been jailed or at the least found to be corrupt and given a token slap on the wrist! Ridiculous thing to say.

    If that is the way that public bodies are run, there leaves a lot to be desired in terms of fairness, due diligence and conflict of interest.

    To me there are still many questions left unanswered and it is very telling that two of the crucial witnesses were allowed to go on long leave and not appear before the hearing. That is suspicious in itself. If I was innocent of the allegations raised, I would be eager to appear before a senate hearing and tell all.

    On another note, I guess the minds in defence are as slow to move as the wheels.

    Another ADFA cadet on sex charge

  117. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 1:28 pm

    Seems if you’ve got skills and are looking for work you are not welcome but if you’re in love with our welfare system, have no papers and no skills then then you are a preferred immigrant in some quarters and there is an army of lawyers to go into bat for you.

    That’s the thing though, most of these 457 visa imports end up in our choked up cities, not the dusty, snake ridden, hot and flyblown outback.

    I’m betting that all of those men currently locked up in our detention centres would welcome the chance to be trained to work in a mining job, beats going mad and/or committing suicide.

  118. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 1:46 pm

    (It’s funny how immigrants like Doug Cameron object to this kind of thing.)

    Oh jump on board with the coalition hate baiting nonsense.

    That statement shows the crazy, lunatic fringe that has become the coalition of tea party politics. Any means of dividing and inciting the public will do, even if it’s lunatic weird.

    Tony abbott is an immigrant, so is abetz (he was illegally in the senate when he was still a german citizen and never received any penalty), mathias corman, julia gillard. What is the fkn point?

    Stupid, crazy, ‘way out there’ stuff that adds nothing to the debate and should receive a bucketing and condemnation (but won’t).

  119. May 28, 2012 2:04 pm

    ‘Oh jump on board with the coalition hate baiting nonsense.’

    Hate baiting? In case you hadn’t noticed my comment was in favour of open immigration. The person I quoted that ias against immigrants coming here to work is an immigrant who came here to work: Doug Cameron. If anyone is a “hate baiter” it’s Douggie.

  120. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 2:04 pm

    Kittylitter, I think that is the point. If you’re an immigrant, it’s a bit rich to cry about immigrant workers, especially those doing jobs Australians won’t do.

  121. May 28, 2012 2:22 pm

    “especially those doing jobs Australians won’t do.”

    Good point.

    This sort of thing really shits me.

    I was in NZ last week, and all I had to listen to was my sister and Mum moan about “how all these Asians are coming here and taking our jobs.”

    I was fkn angry. And I responded in much the same vein as snacty, “perhaps it’s because they actually study hard, and get qualified to do a job, rather than leave school at 16 and just expect the world to owe them a living…”

    And then it was “and they move here and put all their kids in the best schools too…”

    And I’m like, “well what would you do? Put your kids in the worst schools…?’

    Honestly, it beggars belief.

    Meanwhile my sister’s so-called boyfriend has basically been unemployable for ever since I’ve known him – like some 20 years…

    And yet they complain about immigrants who arrive and find work…

    It’s about time someone took out the (white) trash.

  122. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 2:44 pm

    “…The person I quoted that ias against immigrants coming here to work is an immigrant who came here to work: Doug Cameron. If anyone is a “hate baiter” it’s Douggie…”

    “…Kittylitter, I think that is the point. If you’re an immigrant, it’s a bit rich to cry about immigrant workers, especially those doing jobs Australians won’t do…”

    It’s a completely irrelevant personal attack with no real meaning.

    We’re talking about mining aren’t we? Talking about jobs so that Australians can have some benefit from the minerals that are being ripped from their own soil for the personal profits of miners (that is what doug cameron is carrying on about). Is he against all immigrants and immigration like Geert Wilders?
    Australians should be trained and skilled before foreign workers are brought in. Australian workers say that they have been lining up for mining jobs and getting knocked back, they are selective about what they want. And there is a lot of merit in Twiggy’s argument that our own Indigenous should be trained and skilled before foreign workers are brought in. All Australians should get a fair share out of the mining boom and our finite resources.

    You are now arguing about unskilled labour coming in and taking any jobs, a completely different thing. That is a big business wish, we all know that the coalition would have as many migrants as it can get because business always want that – it drives down aussie wages and conditions.

    It’s irrelevant and absurd nonsense and comparing different things.

  123. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 2:48 pm

    And yet they complain about immigrants who arrive and find work…
    It’s about time someone took out the (white) trash.

    Nothing wrong with immigration and people working hard and getting ahead

    But be honest reb, which political party has been espousing and exploiting those kinds of racist attitudes for years?

  124. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 2:50 pm

    Nothing wrong with immigration and people working hard and getting ahead

    And they don’t need 457 visas to do that do they?

  125. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 28, 2012 2:52 pm

    If you’re an immigrant, it’s a bit rich to cry about immigrant workers, especially those doing jobs Australians won’t do.

    However they are a little more choosy these days. It is getting to the point when Ricky Ponting retires from the Australian cricket team they will fly in a replacement from South Africa rather than train our own.

    By the way Pommies are family.

    You should enter a research lab in Australia. People have busted their guts for years to get a PhD and find themselves competing with Eastern Europeans. The Russian govt does not pay their researchers a living wage so they leave everything for a better job in the West. They can get a job in Moscow but do not like the salary.

    We are an immigrant country but I struggle with the concept of skilled immigration.

  126. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:00 pm

    Australians should be trained and skilled before foreign workers are brought in. Australian workers say that they have been lining up for mining jobs and getting knocked back, they are selective about what they want. And there is a lot of merit in Twiggy’s argument that our own Indigenous should be trained and skilled before foreign workers are brought in. All Australians should get a fair share out of the mining boom and our finite resources.

    And how do you achieve this? Carrot or stick. Do you tie them up to each other? Chain their ankles?

  127. May 28, 2012 3:05 pm

    “which political party has been espousing and exploiting those kinds of racist attitudes for years?”

    Historically it’s always been the tories who have demonised those foreigners who come here to “take our jobs” and “destroy our way of life,” but these days with the likes of Julia and the “Malaysia Solution” it’s hard to tell the difference…

    And oddly enough it’s the working classes who seem to rally to those sorts of messages..

  128. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:09 pm

    And how do you achieve this? Carrot or stick. Do you tie them up to each other? Chain their ankles?

    You achieve it by offering the education and training, free courses, because it is apparently an urgent need and you offer it in the places that Indigenous people will be able to commit to. The WA & NT remote areas, fly them in and out if they have to!

    If Twiggy can do it, why can’t the others? it just takes a commitment from the miner, instead of looking purely for profits look at how they can put something back into the place.

    How about the miners training them themselves, it’s not as if they don’t get enough subsidies and tax breaks to give something back.

  129. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:09 pm

    I disagree, Reb. The “Tories” have a problem with border control and security issues, but it’s the Unions who historically oppose skilled immigration.

  130. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:14 pm

    Historically it’s always been the tories who have demonised those foreigners who come here to “take our jobs”

    What a falsehood!!! The white Australia policy was started by the ALP.

  131. May 28, 2012 3:18 pm

    So Pauline Hanson was really a lefty progressive………??

  132. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:27 pm

    So Pauline Hanson was really a lefty progressive………??

    I don’t think so. But I don’t know that Hanson necessarily represents the Conservative position on this issue either. Surely RWDBs would want the cheap labor that comes with immigration?

  133. JAWS permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:47 pm

    “The white Australia policy was started by the ALP.”

    Yep

    In response to islander labour coming here to work the Queensland canefields.

  134. JAWS permalink
    May 28, 2012 3:51 pm

    “………Australians should be trained and skilled before foreign workers are brought in. Australian workers say that they have been lining up for mining jobs and getting knocked back, they are selective about what they want………….”

    Since these skilled overseas workers are being paid the same as Australian labour do you think it is in Gina’s interests to have to pay to fly them here and accommodate them here ?

    And who (presumably skilled and in demand) said they have been knocked back ?

  135. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 4:11 pm

    And oddly enough it’s the working classes who seem to rally to those sorts of messages.

    And of course the entrenched and historical bigotry and racism of Australians has to get a big mention [Aboriginals getting ‘special treatment’ etc]

    I think it is more about an apathetic and dumbed down population believing what appears in a dominant, biased and campaigning media without applying any critical thinking. The messages are designed to get them angry and they don’t realise that they are being fooled and spun, they just believe because it suits their prejudices. They think they are missing out on something but they get incited to direct their anger at innocent targets instead of where it really belongs, the inequities of capitalism, neoliberalism and market favouring politics.

    Did you read the link I gave yesterday from Crikey where they said that the Australian journos have now become their own membership demographic – old angry middle to upper class males!

    Many elderly people are just plain angry at a world that has passed them by. They have been unable to change, grow and progress with the times, so they are angry at everything. They want the world to revert back to some fantasy ‘good times’ of their earlier years. The time when they weren’t fearful.

    “I disagree, Reb. The “Tories” have a problem with border control and security issues, but it’s the Unions who historically oppose skilled immigration”.

    You’re right there james, the unions, the male dominated unions have been anti – immigration [immigration not race] based on jobs and the tories use of immigration as profiteering from worse-off foreigners [if they paid them the same wages it wouldn’t be an issue]. The tories are just as bad, they use the fear and smear of defenceless minorities to invoke racism and xenophobic hysteria when the evidence shows there should be no concern about security and border control. The racism comes about because the tories are not concened about the immigration of white skinned and christian, english speaking types, only brown/yellow skinned people and non christians.

  136. May 28, 2012 4:23 pm

    I think it is more about an apathetic and dumbed down population believing what appears in a dominant, biased and campaigning media without applying any critical thinking. The messages are designed to get them angry and they don’t realise that they are being fooled and spun, they just believe because it suits their prejudices..

    Never a truer word….

    Odd then, how that rabid festering fool Anal Jones is the Libs’ best friend, yet preaches such vile racist views that somehow resonate with a nation of bitter truckdrivers and westies.

    Once upon a time, Labor would’ve countered these sorts of views with some sort of sensible, reasoned argument, but it seems even Labor is going after the same audience these days with the likes of the Malaysia Solution and Marriage Discrimination….

  137. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 28, 2012 4:42 pm

    The racism comes about because the tories are not concened about the immigration of white skinned and christian, english speaking types, only brown/yellow skinned people and non christians.”

    Do you really believe the crap you produce?? If your comment was true we would have only had white immigrants from 1996-2007. Have you been on a train in Sydney recently??

  138. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 28, 2012 6:26 pm

    Once upon a time, Labor would’ve countered these sorts of views with some sort of sensible, reasoned argument, but it seems even Labor is going after the same audience these days with the likes of the Malaysia Solution and Marriage Discrimination….

    They are reb, very disappointing that instead of waking up to themselves after seeing their voters peel off to the greens in disgust, they decide to fight the libs over the bigoted middle.
    Race to the bottom it’s been, who can most appeal to the ugly Australian.

    Do you really believe the crap you produce? Yep Have you been on a train in Sydney recently?? nope

    You don’t sound like you are happy about it neil, all those brown skinned people on trains!

    Could it be that they are over represented due to being poor and dependent upon public transport, while whitey sails past in their one occupant vehicle and say they wouldn’t be caught dead catching public transport. Does it frighten you?

    Since these skilled overseas workers are being paid the same as Australian labour do you think it is in Gina’s interests to have to pay to fly them here and accommodate them here ?

    Why not, she’s making super profits, it won’t send her broke, she gets much more from these workers in the long term than she spends on them, it’s all about maximising profits.

  139. Neil of Sydney permalink
    May 28, 2012 7:31 pm

    “You don’t sound like you are happy about it neil, all those brown skinned people on trains!”

    No I think it is great. What disappoints me is your ability to make falsehoods up. Also you have no trouble smearing your fellow human beings with whom you disagree with no evidence.

    Smearing people seems to be a trait of ALP supporters

  140. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 10:37 am

    Holidays to Bali are getting cheaper………….

    JAKARTA (Dow Jones)–The Indonesian rupiah fell to its lowest level in two years Friday as short-term hedge funds attacked the currency and risk-averse foreign investors continued a month-long selloff in Indonesian stocks and bonds, adding to seasonal demand for dollars.

    By Friday evening, U.S. dollar had risen to IDR9,350 from IDR9,280 late Thursday, even after the central bank was suspected of selling some $200 million to prop up the currency, the largest amount in perhaps two months, traders said.

    The rupiah has been the worst-performing currency in Southeast Asia this year, falling 2.6% on the year and 1.2% so far in May.

    “The rupiah weakening is now due to risk aversion over Greek fears, unlike in the first quarter when the weakness was driven by concerns over Indonesia’s widening current account deficit,” said Aldian Taloputra, economist at Mandiri Sekuritas.

    “Bank Indonesia doesn’t seem to want to buck the trend, as the rupiah weakness is due to global factors and isn’t the only currency sliding against the dollar,” he said, referring to the relatively small amount of dollars the central bank has sold recently in the spot market.

    Two weeks ago, a Bank Indonesia deputy governor said the global forces behind the rupiah’s fall meant there was little the central bank could do to strengthen the currency.

    Traders on Friday said short-term hedge funds were making a speculative attack on the rupiah in the offshore-forwards market, which shook a sluggish market ahead of the long U.S. weekend. Thin liquidity exaggerated the effect, sparking a selloff in other Asian currencies that prompted the central banks of South Korea and India also to defend their currencies.

    Bank Danamon’s chief economist, Anton Gunawan, said problems in Europe have compounded the customary seasonal demand for dollars in May and June, which is due to offshore debt payments, import payments, profit taking in rupiah assets and holidays.

    Bank Indonesia has been intervening for weeks by selling dollars, but only to select buyers–including some importers and banks with bond-related flows–and in smaller quantities than normal.

    BI’s relatively low level of dollar selling “leads to worries that if people want to buy dollars they won’t get any. Consequently there’s no credible rate in the spot market that they can use, so people use the NDF price as a reference for the spot transactions,” Gunawan said.

    NDF prices are typically IDR30-IDR50 higher than Bank Indonesia’s spot rate, but were up to IDR400 higher on Friday, dealers said.

    Foreigners have been net sellers of almost IDR6 trillion ($648 million) in the local stock market this month–including IDR0.9 trillion on Friday as the market fell 2.1%–after buying a net IDR10 trillion in the first quarter. Foreign holdings make up about 60% of the stock market.

    Foreigners also have sold off some $450 million in Indonesian sovereign debt in May, effectively cancelling out April’s net buys.

    Saktiandi Supaat, head of FX research at Maybank in Singapore, predicted investors would return once global pessimism abated, perhaps after Greek elections in mid-June.

  141. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 12:12 pm

    No doubt the constant of rising property prices has finally hit a hiatus. We saw this way back in 1990 to about 1994 after they went through the roof in 1988 when money poured out of the ASX (remember Bond Corp, Adelaide Steamship, Bell Resources, Quintex etc etc)

    Now its happened again until real wages catch up to house prices to make them more affordable along with a sustained period of low interest rates and tighter bank lending.

    Plus retail is suffering under the weight of the rising Dollar and the new “shopping mall” in your briefcase/handbag or pocket called the Internet. And no one responds to “On Sale Now” signage anymore as its become a constant. A few years ago you would walk into a shop and simply pay the ticket price. Not anymore unless you are very timid.

    Sure the Opposition talks things down. But all of them do. There is just too much negativity around be it Carbon Tax, or Class Warfare, Gerry Harvey and Retailers moaning. The real sleeper at the moment are the changes to Childcare Centres and how they are run. Child Care fees are shortly about to go through the roof because the Feds are “raising the bar” on the type of qualifications and the number of supervisors required.

    And we are a great deal more cynical after being “educated” by the internet that we are paying too much for everything.

    Last weekend I went looking at pavers for part of our backyard that is looking a bit drab. I saw they were “On Sale” for $60M2 but the Sale of course ended yesterday and I was not ready to decide.

    It don’t matter to me as I’ll go in next weekend and simply say well I’ll buy 50M2 @ $60M2 at your “Sale” price take it or leave it.

    A few years ago I would have just paid the list price and been done with it

    We have become hardened and cynical

  142. May 29, 2012 12:34 pm

    No wonder it’s so fkn confusing….

    Does anyone actually know what’s really going on…????

    “New home sales rise in April”

    http://www.news.com.au/money/property/new-home-sales-rise-in-april/story-e6frfmd0-1226371493715

    “New home sales flat in April”

    http://www.news.com.au/business/breaking-news/australian-new-home-sales-flat-in-april/story-e6frfkur-1226065574114

  143. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 1:37 pm

    Houses should be treated as assets in which to live. Any tax advantages associated with the housing industry should be directed thus, not towards accumulation of property portfolios. Whilst you have the latter, the entire industry will be subjected to the bullshit that Reb’s post at 12.34 illustrates.

  144. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 29, 2012 7:55 pm

    Houses should be treated as assets in which to live. Any tax advantages associated with the housing industry should be directed thus, not towards accumulation of property portfolios.

    I agree with james [shout it out…louder now!]

    It’s just a ridiculous and mammoth waste of taxpayer’s money to support the negative gearing rort.

  145. el gordo permalink
    May 30, 2012 7:46 am

    ‘Only 3000 of the 90,000 workers employed in WA’s mining sector are Australians who have moved from other states, the WA government said.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/pulling-in-mining-dollars-takes-frontier-spirit–hard-to-find-in-the-city-20120529-1zhfo.html#ixzz1wIVj9qQ6

    I have nothing further to add.

  146. el gordo permalink
    May 30, 2012 8:15 am

    ‘It’s just a ridiculous and mammoth waste of taxpayer’s money to support the negative gearing rort.’

    There is waste and there is waste.

    ‘CYBER-SMART schools are getting rid of printed books, despite $4 billion of taxpayers’ money spent building 3472 libraries in the past three years.

    ‘Adelaide’s beachside Henley High School has donated its 10,000 printed library books to charity. The empty bookshelves will soon be sold, as they are redundant in the “virtual library”.

  147. Tony permalink
    May 30, 2012 8:50 am

    ‘I agree with Lagarde that the people of sub-Saharan Africa are more deserving of sympathy. After all, the Greek people repeatedly voted to steal money from their fellow citizens by using the coercive power of government, so it’s hard to feel much sympathy for people who thought that scam could continue indefinitely.

    ‘Though, to be fair, the people in sub-Saharan Africa would probably make the same venal choices if they had democracy.

    ‘On the other hand, I am nauseated by Lagarde’s comments about tax evasion. She is one of the world’s biggest leeches, with annual compensation of more than $550,000 that is diverted from the productive sector of the economy. And, adding insult to injury, her bloated salary is tax free. So we have the grotesque spectacle of a pampered international bureaucrat whining and moaning that ordinary people aren’t paying enough tax.

    ‘Keep in mind, by the way, that the tax burden in Greece is more than 40 percent of economic output (see annex table 26), which (at least to normal people) shows that the problems is that the Greek government is spending far too much.’

    http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/in-a-battle-between-the-imf-and-greece-i-want-both-sides-to-lose/

  148. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 8:55 am

    “……She is one of the world’s biggest leeches, with annual compensation of more than $550,000 that is diverted from the productive sector of the economy…………”

    OK

    Lets pay her say …………..$1M p.a. and tax her say……………….$450K

    There……………is that more palatable ?

  149. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 8:56 am

    ‘…………Though, to be fair, the people in sub-Saharan Africa would probably make the same venal choices if they had democracy…………..”

    There are plenty of democracies that have exercised restraint.

  150. Tony permalink
    May 30, 2012 8:56 am

    ‘Krugman “writes with more vitriol than I find attractive,” writes Harvard economist and fellow Times columnist Greg Mankiw. He treats anyone who disagrees as “a mendacious idiot,” writes George Mason University economist Alex Tabarrok. “Krugman should stop bullying people,” wrote columnist Michael Kinsley.

    ‘In short, to use the kind of colorful language the great Nobelist favors, Paul Krugman is a jackass.’

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/krug_attacks_cv5ld2kSZ5DFnNMQcxt8aJ#ixzz1wInVQ8Y9

  151. Tony permalink
    May 30, 2012 9:02 am

    ‘I’ve been in Germany visiting Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Nuremberg and Frankfurt am Main, and from every outward sign, things look great. Cranes are at work building new buildings; late model cars swoop along the autobahns, the restaurants and the shops are full, and tourists swarm in and around the famous sights.

    ‘But when you talk to them, you hear a new note of worry in Germany. As a journalist told me yesterday, he worries whether the money in his pocket will be worth anything a year from now. Others worry about Germany’s increasingly negative image among recession-hit southern and eastern Europeans. Americans will understand this feeling well: you pay and pay to help others, only to have them turn on you in hatred and wrath, accusing you of horrible hidden motives and denouncing your selfishness.’

    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/05/26/germans-begin-to-suffer-from-europes-woes/

  152. Tony permalink
    May 30, 2012 9:08 am

    ‘Ohio Man Crashes Truck Into Taco Bell After His Drive-Thru Order Is Short One 99-Cent Taco’

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/taco-bell-rage-578231

  153. May 30, 2012 11:36 am

    “It’s just a ridiculous and mammoth waste of taxpayer’s money to support the negative gearing rort.”

    I strongly object!

    Negative gearing provides a very viable incentive for “ordinary Australians” to help out their fellow “battlers” by buying them a house or unit can they can then live in for a very modest rental in return…

    In fact, it’s really a form of charity!

    Donations made to charitable organisations are tax deductible so it seems only fair that negative gearing should be too.

    A “real” mammoth waste of taxpayers’ money is the baby bonus, which really only encourages the wrong sorts of people (ie those who can least afford it) to produce more offspring who are really no doubt going to repeat the entire scam themselves…

    No wonder intergenerational welfare is rampant in Australia…

    It’s a disgrace!

  154. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 11:43 am

    “……….In fact, it’s really a form of charity!……….”

    Yes………………Yes…………………I agree

    It’s one of the few laudable welfare churns I’ve ever recommended

  155. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 11:43 am

    It’s more akin to philanthropy

  156. el gordo permalink
    May 30, 2012 12:02 pm

    ‘…intergenerational welfare is rampant in Australia…’

    Hard to break the nexus, there has always been a underclass, the opposite of the upperclass intergenerational Canberrans.

  157. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 12:32 pm

    “…………The crisis has exposed sharp differences between some Europeans. Germany is the most admired nation in the EU and its leader the most respected.

    The Germans are judged to be Europe’s most hardworking people. And the Germans are the strongest supporters of both European economic integration and the European Union.

    Greece is the polar opposite. None of its fellow EU members surveyed see it in a positive light. In turn, Greeks are among the most disparaging of European economic integration and the harshest critics of the European Union. And they see themselves as Europe’s most hardworking people……………..”

    “Europe’s most hardworking people”…………………….LOL

    They deserve to fail.

    *****************************************************************
    And from the same survey/link (see below)………….

    “……80% of Germans thought Chancellor Angela Merkel had done a good job as an economic manager. Such appreciation for her acumen extends across most of the European countries surveyed. Strong majorities in six of the other seven nations said she was doing a fine job. Only the Greeks demurred. Just 14% gave her good marks……….”

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/05/29/european-unity-on-the-rocks/

    Seems to me that the only hardworking Greeks you’ll find already live in Sydney and Melbourne

  158. el gordo permalink
    May 30, 2012 12:53 pm

    Barry O has broken a promise, to get his power bill through, but he should have a positive spin ready.

    ‘The government announced today that the Game and Feral Animal Control Act will be amended to allow shooting of feral animals in “a limited number of areas under strict conditions” but not near metropolitan areas or wilderness or world heritage areas.

    ‘Mr O’Farrell said the power sale would deliver around $3 billion.’

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/premiers-park-hunting-backdown-the-price-of-power-sale-20120530-1ziik.html#ixzz1wJkeJX9o

  159. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 1:19 pm

    “Feral Animals” ay………….!

    Do bears count ?

  160. el gordo permalink
    May 30, 2012 2:52 pm

    Three-quarters of voters in that poll are against the idea, that’s probably because they don’t live in the bush.

  161. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 3:43 pm

    As much as I love my two 4kg fur covered razor blades I have seen the “work” of wild dogs and cats in a couple of Royal National Parks and the results are not at all pretty.

    Even if you visit the Hunter Valley especially a township called Broke (a few kms from Polkobin) where quite a few alpacas are grazed on land adjoining the wineries they’ll tell you about the various dog attacks in the middle of the night.

    And besides dogs and cats plus foxes of course people tend to forget that Australia does not have a single native hooved animal.

  162. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 3:45 pm

    Correction……………Maltese (and Poodles) have hair……….not fur

  163. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 3:52 pm

    But what will the Greens say ?

  164. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 4:03 pm

    Meanwhile Australia’s most wellknown alleged rapist gets a verdict today

    From Dow Jones News………………

    SYDNEY (AFP)–The mother of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says she is fearful a U.K. court will allow his extradition to Sweden, claiming “the biggest governments in the world are gunning for him.”

    Assange, a 40-year-old Australian, will learn Wednesday whether he will be sent to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning over allegations of rape and sexual assault, when the Supreme Court hands down its judgment in the complex case.

    His mother Christine Assange, who has traveled to London for the decision by the U.K.’s highest court–her son’s last avenue of appeal following numerous legal battles–said waiting for the ruling was a painful experience.

    “It’s a 24-hour nightmare because we know he is not safe and the biggest governments in the world are gunning for him,” she told Australia’s Network Seven late Tuesday.

    “If the decision is against him, within 10 days he will be in a Swedish prison.”

    Assange rose to global fame after his WikiLeaks site enraged Washington by leaking thousands of secret U.S. documents on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The site later leaked thousands of U.S. diplomatic cables.

    He believes his extradition to Sweden could pave the way for extradition to the U.S. on possible espionage or conspiracy charges relating to the leaked documents.

    His mother said the rape and sexual assault allegations against her son, who has been under virtual house arrest in London for more than a year without charge, were unfounded.

    “I don’t believe they’re true and neither does anybody else,” she said.

    Nevertheless, she fears her son’s extradition to Sweden, believing he could be held “incommunicado, in solitary confinement, before he is even questioned or charged.”

    She said the legal process he had been subjected to had been “extremely unfair,” and that she was even more concerned about what would happen if he was sent to the U.S.

    “How I feel? I feel…a mix of anger, outrage and fear,” she said.

    Australia, which has come under pressure from Assange’s supporters to step up its support for him, is a close ally of the U.S. and Prime Minister Julia Gillard has previously slammed WikiLeaks as “grossly irresponsible.”

    However, Foreign Minister Bob Carr played down the prospect of Washington seeking to extradite Assange.

    “We’ve seen no evidence that such an indictment exists,” Carr said.

    “We’ve no advice that the U.S. has an intention to extradite Mr. Assange.”

    Assange was detained in December 2010 on a European arrest warrant relating to allegations he raped one woman by having sex with her while she was asleep, and sexually assaulted another, in Sweden.

    The former computer hacker insists the sex was consensual and the allegations politically motivated.

    His case rests largely on the point that the Swedish prosecutor who issued a warrant for his arrest allegedly wasn’t a valid judicial authority.

  165. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 4:20 pm

    “……..His mother said the rape and sexual assault allegations against her son, who has been under virtual house arrest in London for more than a year without charge, were unfounded.

    “I don’t believe they’re true and neither does anybody else,” she said…………….”

    Obviously I must have been on another call at the time……..

  166. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 5:57 pm

    You can forget the sideshow that’s called Greece

    It looks like its all turning pear shaped tonight. Alarming signals in the bond markets for Spain this morning, the yield on its 10-year debt has risen to 6.55%.

    Now that’s very close to the 7% danger zone where nations have lost the confidence of investors. The ‘spread’ between Spanish and German 10-year bond yields is at a new record high of 5.17 percentage points.

    This spread is rather significant if it stays like that, because clearing houses (who handle bond sales) will raise their margin requirements, making it even more expensive to trade Spanish bonds

    With stock markets and the euro also falling in early trading the crisis appears to entering another phase.

    Don’t be surprised if we all wake up tomorrow morning with Wall Street having turned to custard overnight.

  167. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 11:40 pm

    Cash pouring into Switzerland . No one in Europe gets out alive .

  168. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 11:46 pm

    If anyone has spare time tomorrow I recommend googling “cheap waterfront Spain”. I especially recommend costa del sol area. Nice and sunny but hardly spectacular

    They all persist in trying to live in another universe

  169. JAWS permalink
    May 30, 2012 11:48 pm

    I mean they are asking silly prices still . They are all in denial over there .

  170. el gordo permalink
    May 31, 2012 7:58 am

    The Spainish are not reducing their prices and are optimistic the rest of Europe will soon come down to their level….deflationary spiral.

  171. JAWS permalink
    May 31, 2012 9:37 am

    There were 2 new Greeek opinion polls out last night.

    “The Pulse” Poll, put New Democracy and Syriza ( anti austerity) neck-and-neck on 24.5%.
    The other, by VPRC, put Syriza ahead on 30% followed by New Democracy with 26.5%, then Pasok on 12.5%. ND and Pasok could partner each other in a coalition.

    It appears that these polls, which both show support for the ‘anti-bailout’ Syriza party holding up were the trigger that sent the euro falling.

  172. JAWS permalink
    May 31, 2012 10:33 am

    ASX down 1.1% already.

    The “safe haven” stocks with high dividend yields like Telstra are holding up.

    Telstra are at $3.52 paying an annual fully franked dividend of $0.28 per share which is a yield of 7.95% or on a fully franked before tax basis 11.36%.

    Try and get that on a term deposit.

  173. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2012 11:07 am

    Try and get that on a term deposit.

    Agree, short term deposits are around 5.3% – 5.5% … BUT Telstra?

    I actually made a profit when I flogged mine in 2004(?) …

  174. JAWS permalink
    May 31, 2012 11:08 am

    ASX bleeding out today. The “defensives” like Woolworths and Wesfarmers are actually up as cash floods away from “risk” to “safer”

  175. TB Queensland permalink
    May 31, 2012 11:10 am

    A Spanish fly?

  176. JAWS permalink
    May 31, 2012 11:16 am

    “BUT Telstra? ”

    Most brokers have a Buy rating on Telstra (ASX Code : TLS) at the moment. They are trading well above last years low of $2.70 as there is now greater clarity with the NBN deal now (which most concede is going ahead no matter what).

    And even if it drops 10% it pays such a high yield its only a 12 month set back

    If Europe turns to custard the theory goes that yield and term deposits will be where to put your cash.

    And don’t forget that most Superfunds are bound by trust deeds to have a certain % in Australian Shares. Hence, with compulsory super, money will always continue to flow into the ASX but it will have a preference for relatively safe haven stocks like TLS, Woolies (WOW) and Wesfarmers (WES: Coles/Bunnings) plus the medical stocks like Resmed

  177. JAWS permalink
    June 1, 2012 9:16 am

    South Australians………………………what can you say about them …………………….OK

    Woof…………Woof

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/animal-sex-a-case-of-sexual-naivety-adelaide-district-court-told/story-e6frea83-1226376736231

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