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Tony Abbott’s Popularity Plummets to Record Low!

May 29, 2012

Newspoll.  Who does it think it is…?

According to so-called “research” the latest newspoll shows popularity for Federal Opposition Leader Tony Abbott at an all time record low of 37 per cent and Julia Gillard’s approval rating surging ahead by four points to 40 per cent.

Ms Gillard is now the preferred Prime Minister, an achievement that has been accomplished while she has been out of the country for much of the last two weeks. So it seems the less we and see and hear from her, the more popular she becomes.

Which kind of makes sense if you think about it..

Could this be the first stage in a turn of fortunes for Labor?  (ha ha ha.  No.)

In the crucial election-deciding two-party preferred stakes the Coalition maintains its leads over Labor 54 per cent to 46 per cent, a margin it has held pretty much consistently for the last 12 months.  At this rate it would take a miracle for Labor to win the next election.

It’s a Miracle!

Nothing pleases the electorate more than a cash handout, and almost any day now Seniors will start receiving cash handouts of $130 while families saddled with kids will start getting some $800 in so called “assistance” measures.  “These people” should’ve known what they were getting themselves into in the first place.

Fkn bludgers.  The lot of them.

 

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  1. May 29, 2012 11:26 am

    Yep, that Tony Abbott, as unpopular as leprosy…even with the golden egg of a dysfunctional & generally loathed ALP government to make him look palatable.

    A pity then that he’ll crawl across the line by default.

  2. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2012 11:36 am

    Gillard is so bad she has to go. Sadly the replacement doesn’t look all that appetising. Does anyone really fancy Hockey as treasurer?

  3. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 11:54 am

    ‘A pity then that he’ll crawl across the line by default.’

    The people will vote on policy, something they did in the old days before ‘leadership’ became a popularity contest.

  4. May 29, 2012 12:38 pm

    Interesting.

    Doesn’t that suggest that Abbott should have identifiable policies which ‘the people’ may examine on their merits?…because he is currently generally bereft of tangible examinables.

    The ‘people’ are, on the whole, politically disengaged & have no fucking idea what they’ll be voting in. They’ll be voting out Gillard; which isn’t the same thing as “voting on policy” at all.

  5. May 29, 2012 12:51 pm

    I heard somewhere the other day that the Coalition have got some 49 policies finalised and “fully costed” (guess the black hole competition) but aren’t releasing details yet…

  6. May 29, 2012 1:18 pm

    “…aren’t releasing details yet…”

    That’s pivotal to what I was rambling about.

    It may be politically savvy. No doubt the ALP won government the same way. But, it puts down any notion that ‘the people’ (those few who’d actually care to look & analyse) can make informed judgements on alternative policy positions.

    Abbott is & always has (in Opposition) just rode on a wave of discontent…interspersed with the odd brain-snapping loss of self control, just to remind us all what lies beneath.

  7. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 1:19 pm

    I think there was a collective feeling late last week that the Thomson inquisitation had gone just a step too far. Indeed I think the Libs were onto it because they backed off (or at least refocussed onto the PM).

    No alternative government has ever to my memory released their policies so far out from an election. For two reasons.

    1. On a practical level, particularly when the government is on the nose, they don’t want the narrative to shift to what might be wrong with their own policies but also

    2. Policies cannot be properly costed this far out from an election.

    As I said last week, Abbott should announce that there will be a Royal Commission (or whatever the most comprehensive and illuminating examination there is) into the trade union movement and their financials, that they will be subject to the same reporting standards as corporations (which he has already announced), and that he’ll have nothing further to specifically say on the Thomson matter.

    Further he should instruct his members that social media should be used positively (in the Simon Crean sense eg “today I’m with the community of Timbuctu opening this gallery) only.

    Finally, and without releasing detailed policies, he should start delivering alternatives with his criticisms. There will be flack to wear, but there is the fat still in the 2PP to wear some of that. A year or so ago Abbott floated the idea of funding unemployed to take up positions in mining towns. He copped a lot of flack for it but it would be the ideal narrative to accompany yesterday’s talking point.

  8. May 29, 2012 1:20 pm

    toilet redux…Onytubble Abbottubble isubble aubble untcubble.

  9. May 29, 2012 1:24 pm

    Yeah, except not everyone hates trade unions or sees the devil therein. Some of us actually belong to them.

    Not many here though, I’d hazard a guess, which is a little illustrative of the ‘tone’ of the ongoing witchhunt. 🙄

  10. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 1:31 pm

    “Further he should instruct his members that social media should be used positively…….”

    I agree just like Joel Fitzgibbon did on the weekend

    I think its much more sincere to voice your support for the PM via Twitter than having to front up to questions from pesky reporters

    LOL

  11. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 1:33 pm

    “…………Not many here though, I’d hazard a guess,……………”

    What………………..don’t the Institute of Chartered Accountants count ?

  12. May 29, 2012 1:41 pm

    How about the Association of Hard-Hearted, Uncompassionate, Uncaring Wingnutz? 😯

  13. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 1:44 pm

    Interestingly, Jaws, Fitzgibbon had been pretty good up until that point.

  14. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 1:57 pm

    Toilet, I really do believe that Trade Unions are essential to the delicate balance between the conflicting desires of freedom and fairness, which, when it’s all boiled down, is what Australian politics is (or should be) all about.

    I believe the Libs (should) represent freedom with a view to fairness and Labor (should) represent fairness with a nod to freedom. I don’t think you can achieve even basic workplace fairness without some sort of collective representation.

    But if that aspect is trashed in the way that it has been, for its own good it needs a good enema. If it doesn’t get one, it could be finished entirely and that simply ends up costing the punter who needs it.

    I am also an advocate for higher corporate governance standards and my refusal to drop my own standards in that regard has cost me deeply in the past.

  15. May 29, 2012 1:59 pm

    Shorter Snacty: dole bludgers should be shipped to the mines.

  16. Bacchus permalink
    May 29, 2012 2:03 pm

    I think its much more sincere to voice your support for the PM via Twitter than having to front up to questions from pesky reporters

    Perhaps it was on twitter because Mr Fitzgibbon’s remark was in reply to a tweet from so-called reporter Latika Burke, but you won’t hear that in any reports in the MSM will you 🙄

    http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2012/05/23/yes-i-do-believe-him-but-have-doubts-about-her/#comment-79828

  17. May 29, 2012 2:08 pm

    ‘dole bludgers should be shipped to the mines.’

    And buried.

  18. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 2:11 pm

    I wonder if Kevin Rudd was amongst them?

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/scores-evacuated-as-warehouse-burns-20120529-1zfv6.html

  19. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 2:12 pm

    ”…my refusal to drop my own standards in that regard has cost me deeply in the past.

    Me too! I’ve knocked back plenty of brunettes.

  20. May 29, 2012 2:19 pm

    ‘Mining jobs paying more than $4000 a week, with all onsite accommodation and meals provided, cannot lure unemployed Victorians from their couches …

    ‘Almost half of job seekers at Centrelink in Preston yesterday told the Herald Sun they would rather stay on the dole at $244 a week than take mining jobs in Western Australia.’

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/not-even-4000-a-week-is-enough-to-get-victorians-to-wa/story-fn6bfkm6-1226370582946

  21. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 3:30 pm

    And this brings us back to the real reason why they can’t get enough Australians into the mines.

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/-/business/12466702/miners-fake-urine-in-drug-tests/

    The battle lines are now being fought over testing and Fair Work Australia is involved, they have just won a landmark case which does away with urine testing.

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2012 3:34 pm

    Sorry, ToSY, some of us can’t afford (refuse) to pay for shit news … your “link” is a paywall … OR a loginwall … either way … not interested … so can’t/won’t comment …

    ”…my refusal to drop my own standards in that regard has cost me deeply in the past.”

    Chuckle …

  23. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2012 3:49 pm

    And this brings us back to the real reason why they can’t get enough Australians into the mines.

    egg, one of the issues I used to “discuss” with mine management teams was using “competency” testing rather than “drug/alcohol” testing …

    Often, some people “over the limit” can be more competent in the workplace than those under the “limit” … it’s (apostrophe alert!) a complex issue … with more than one solution (‘scuse the pun – ‘nother two alerts) available …

    … and it really is about working in a safe environment … with risks eliminated, reduced or managed …

    … the focus on one solution only, often overshadows logic and objectivity, in improving workplace competency, management and supervision … a long , long story …

    … drug testing on minesites actually shifted the users of marijuana … that stays in the body for days … and during my work on site) to the harder drugs that give a quick hit and gone in less than 24 hours … the “fix” created a bigger problem … (and I experienced/complied with testing as a consultant going in and out {sometimes})

  24. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 3:51 pm

    Still, we should talk about this TB, as the idea of guest workers alienates you so much.

    Here is a little more on the battle lines being drawn…

    http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/fair-work-appeal-may-change-drug-testing-on-site

  25. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 3:54 pm

    Thanx for the inside knowledge.

  26. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 4:08 pm

    “……………Mr Fitzgibbon’s remark was in reply to a tweet from so-called reporter Latika Burke…………”

    How dare you besmirch the fine reputation of the award winning Latika.

    Latika is a reporter of great ………….intelligence…………………..accuracy………………wit………………….genius…………………..incisiveness…………………………….clarity………………modesty……………………values…………………..

    Such a pity she’s soooooooooooooooooo bloody ordinary to look at……….

  27. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2012 4:08 pm

    “The battle lines are now being fought over testing and Fair Work Australia is involved, they have just won a landmark case which does away with urine testing.”

    This is completely fucked-up.

    As is this: “Often, some people “over the limit” can be more competent in the workplace than those under the “limit” “

    Try telling that to the judge in a DUI trial. Employers have the duty to ensure a safe working environment and testing is a reasonable procedure to help achieve that goal.

    After fighting against urine tests, the first thing the union would do if someone was injured in a drug-related work accident is to sue the employer. That’s unions for you – arseholes one day, cunts the next.

  28. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 4:09 pm

    I forgot the LOL

  29. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 4:37 pm

    Morgan has it….

    Coalition 61.5%
    Alp 38.5%

    …….for what it’s worth

    😯

  30. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 5:23 pm

    http://www.roymorgan.com.au/

    True, if the lines were relabled some would say the blue line looks like a global warming trend, while the red one looks like the destruction of polar ice caps.

    But whose interested in trends?!

  31. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 5:32 pm

    ‘This is a record two-party preferred lead for the L-NP in over 70 years of the Morgan Poll based on how electors said they’d vote.’

    The new backroom boys will be sharpening their knives.

  32. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2012 6:20 pm

    Still, we should talk about this TB, as the idea of guest workers alienates you so much.

    Not quite sure I understand the relationship with the two subjects …

    This is completely fucked-up.

    As is this: “Often, some people “over the limit” can be more competent in the workplace than those under the “limit” “

    And until I know to who, with what qualifications and work experience I’m talking to, that’s why I said (and where I’ll stay) … … the focus on one solution only, often overshadows logic and objectivity, in improving workplace competency, management and supervision … a long , long story … I also said it has more than one solution …

    Question 1 … splatterbum, how many mines have you visited …

  33. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2012 6:24 pm

    Latika is a reporter of great ………….intelligence…………………..accuracy………………wit………………….genius…………………..incisiveness…………………………….clarity………………modesty……………………values…………………..

    Coming from you Wally, that really encourages me to seek out her sage comments … 🙄

    Does anyone actually think Barry Humphries is funny or … like me … just a vulgar, dirty, old man? who gets paid to cross dress in front of people ..?

  34. Bacchus permalink
    May 29, 2012 6:46 pm

    Did you see Q&A last night TB? I thought a “line had been crossed” 😉

  35. JAWS permalink
    May 29, 2012 6:48 pm

    “……..Does anyone actually think Barry Humphries is funny or………..”

    He can be but on Q & A he got unnecessarily personal about Gina R. A bit like Germaine about the PM.

    I mean he does not cut much of a dashing figure these days himself having a gut that transits 2 postcodes

  36. Splatterbottom permalink
    May 29, 2012 6:51 pm

    “how many mines have you visited …”

    Sorry TB. I forgot I wasn’t entitled to an opinion.

  37. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 7:10 pm

    I’ve been to lots and lots of mine sites, and I don’t see much that I disagree with in Sb’s comment.

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    May 29, 2012 7:47 pm

    Did you see Q&A last night TB? I thought a “line had been crossed”

    More than one … and I agree with, Wally …

    … and to pop, Wally’s, bubble on anotherissue …

    Dinkum or fair dinkum means “true”, “the truth”, “speaking the truth”, “authentic” and related meanings, depending on context and inflection. It is often claimed that dinkum was derived from the Cantonese (or Hokkien) ding kam, meaning “top gold” or “deposit”, during the Australian goldrushes of the 1850s. This, however, is chronologically improbable since dinkum is first recorded in the 1890s. Scholars give greater credence to the notion that it originated with a now-extinct dialect word from the East Midlands in England, where dinkum (or dincum) meant “hard work” or “fair work”, which was also the original meaning in Australian English.[1] The derivation dinky-di means a ‘true’ or devoted Australian. The words dinkum or dinky-di and phrases like true blue are widely purported to be typical Australian sayings, however these sayings are more commonly used in jest or parody rather than as an authentic way of speaking. These sayings are however used authentically in North Queensland.

    Sorry TB. I forgot I wasn’t entitled to an opinion. but you said … This is completely fucked-up. … As is this: My comment followed … why? how do you know? What experience do you have to write that … what qualifications …

    ‘Course you are entitled to an opinion but what is it … “all fucked up” , but you challenged a statement I made based on my qualifications, discussions with senior mine managers and experience … what are your’s … we are discussing issues that could kill someone …

    I’ve been to lots and lots of mine sites, and I don’t see much that I disagree with in Sb’s comment.

    The same question to you, ToM, what have you DONE there … what are your quals and work experience? What do either of you know about the workings of a mine … hard or soft .. underground or open-cut … what have you ever done on a mine …

    Everyone who posts here know mine (‘scuse the pun) … prattling opinions don’t cut it as far as I’m concerned – with serious issues … I may throw off at Wally over “fair dinkum” origins and have an opinion … but I’ll certainly concede to his experience in financial management and tax …

    Everyone can have an “opinion” about politics … but we’re talking about somethinge else here …

  39. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 8:06 pm

    ‘Not quite sure I understand the relationship with the two subjects …’

    It was a long bow…1700 sober and drug free guest workers from China is just what Gina and her butler think is necessary to drive the nation.

  40. el gordo permalink
    May 29, 2012 8:21 pm

    At the Palestinian wedding on the weekend the Moorish dancing reminded me of Morris dancing….this I believe is no coincidence.

  41. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 8:39 pm

    “prattling opinions don’t cut it”

    Memo to Reb. Shut down the blog.

    TB, if you disagree, say why. Don’t just pull rank. If for no other reason than we might all learn something.

  42. James of North Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 8:47 pm

    I agree with you on weed by the way. The effects are gone long before it’s existence in the bloodstream. Wouldn’t know about the other stuff. Oh and I don’t really know about weed. It’s just something I heard….. From someone….. Who I didn’t know personally.

  43. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 29, 2012 9:22 pm

    Be dismissive of other views as you wish TB.

    Workplaces, particularly industrialised ones in heavy industry, need clear, unambiguous safety policies. People deserve to know whether they are fit for work before they attend, not turn up and have a supervisor conduct a competency test.

    Putting in place a testing regime for alcohol and drugs (that can impair the safety of themselves and their colleagues) allows people to self assess their ability to work.

    Your procedure doesn’t support or encourage self regulation.

  44. TB Queensland permalink
    May 30, 2012 5:03 pm

    ToM, I’m no more nor less dismissive of other views as anyone here … in fact even when many posters here are shown to be incorrect they just continue on merrily posting the same stuff as if nothing had been argued and proven …

    … and BTW, it was MY post that was dismissed as “completely fucked up” … an extreme and obviously ill-informed approach I was not prepared to engage in …

    In the interests of “edification” … random drug and alcohol testing is frought with issues (random competency testing was only one approach discussed in combination with d&a testing) and I can assure you many people are still not happy with the situation … from senior execs, line and staff management, unions, individuals and employee’s families …

    … this extract below (from NSW Govt) might give you some idea of why …

    4. Alcohol and other drug testing

    Drug testing, as a means of managing alcohol and other drug related risks, has a number of
    significant limitations:

    • a positive test for alcohol and other drugs is not in itself evidence of impairment of
    ability to perform or intoxication. This is particularly so in relation to the presence of
    a drug (other than alcohol) where there is much less international consensus on the
    relationship between the measured level of a drug (or its metabolite) and levels of
    impairment

    • if a worker refuses to be tested it cannot be presumed that they are intoxicated.
    Workers have a legal right to refuse to be tested, unless specific legislation, contracts or
    employment agreements provide otherwise

    • the reliability of testing can be subject to legal challenge due to varying accuracy rates.

    http://www.workcover.nsw.gov.au/formspublications/publications/Documents/drugs_alcohol_workplace_guide_1359.pdf

    This is only one document … but its easy to follow …

  45. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2012 1:25 am

    Thomson 6: Kathy Jackson and the HSU $½ million

    …Indeed, in just two weeks, we have found payments to Kathy Jackson, and to her children’s Child Care Centre, totalling $659,063.18. Bear in mind that Kathy Jackson is not an investment banker, she is a union official representing low-paid healthy service workers.

    Below is a breakdown:

    $4,860.72 – K. Koukavaos Consulting
    $36,867.46 – Neranto No. 10, for consultancy services
    $13,100 – Katherine Jackson direct, for Accommodation and travel HESTA
    $12,500 – Katherine Jackson direct, for postage and shipping. Apparently lots of shipping…
    $63,000 – Katherine Jackson direct, for an Honorarium payment
    $6,165 – Minifie Park Child Care Association, apparent staff benefits and uniforms
    $522,570 – Katherine Jackson direct – Key Management Personnel Compensation
    Documentation of these payments may be accessed on our site via the links mentioned above.

    Of course, there may be reasonable explanations for all these payments.

    …In the thousands of messages we have received, there was just one that expressed concern for Jackson’s partner, Michael Lawler, Vice President of Fair Work Australia…

    …We have some good news for that person, and anyone else with concerns for Lawler. According to several eye-witness reports we have received, he was spotted last week looking dapper and as fresh as a daisy in a café, having a cuppa with his partner Kathy Jackson, along with the manager of Opposition Business Christopher Pyne.

    The same Christopher Pyne who had a late night drinking session James Ashby.

  46. el gordo permalink
    May 31, 2012 7:50 am

    TB’s link is informative, the issue is not black and white.

  47. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    May 31, 2012 10:01 am

    Fair enough AO, the HSU can get some money out of Jackson if they’re entitled to it. But she isn’t in parliament, so what’s the fuss about?

    It may be almost as grubby as a union which is affiliated with the ALP having links to illegal bikies gangs.

    As for Lawler, I simply note that he may have shown poor judgment. If that was a hanging offense, we’d be light on for politicians and public servants.

    As usual, from that source, it’s a big “LOOK OVER TEHRE!!”

    It’s a down market version of malicious gossip, it’s fact free innuendo. Low grade tabloid. He’s the political “New Idea”

  48. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2012 10:49 am

    Fair enough AO, the HSU can get some money out of Jackson if they’re entitled to it. But she isn’t in parliament, so what’s the fuss about?

    Oh that’s cheeky. I know where the sustained ‘fuss’ has been coming from!

    The fuss comes from ‘you lot’. I’ve been happy to sit back and wait until the drama plays out to the end. It is the Liberal barrackers who have been full of outraged shrieking and carrying on as if no aussie MP before Thomson has ever fouled the honourable place that Abbott is now trashing.

    The fuss from my end is the corruption and collusion by political opponents and the supposedly separate powers of the judiciary, to get someone out of parliament purely for Tony Abbott to become PM.

    I don’t say that Thomson is innocent I don’t know that. I have always said that Jackson is just as guilty as the rest of them. I have always said that this has a long way to go and there is a big smell about it (same for Slipper/Ashby). I might remind you that these allegations occurred before Thomson entered parliament as well. Now, Abbott has not had a problem with accepting the ‘tainted vote’ of mary jo shoplifter who actually was found guilty of a crime and was not suspended from parliament either.

    To quote a former commenter who was also hounded out “the hypocrisy abounds”.

  49. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2012 11:56 am

    My work here is done

  50. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2012 12:10 pm

    As for Lawler, I simply note that he may have shown poor judgment. If that was a hanging offense, we’d be light on for politicians and public servants.

    Maybe we should have more female representation in these positions then, showing a better way.

    TomM, if nothing else, the very nasty political ‘strategies’ being played out has made me more aware of how people in high office in this country, instead of being frank and fearless, unbiased and objective and acting in the public interest, are very much political players and devoid of principle, ethics and personal morals. I used to think that our regulatory bodies would ensure fairness and investigate in the most impartial and objective ways, but now I can see that the higher up the chain they go, the more protected they are…and the more corrupt.

    What chance does any lowly, ordinary person have in this country when the process, even for the elite and powerful is so unfair and corrupt?

  51. armchair opinionator permalink
    May 31, 2012 12:21 pm

    It’s a down market version of malicious gossip, it’s fact free innuendo. Low grade tabloid. He’s the political “New Idea”

    As opposed to the low grade tabloid of journos presenting only one side of the story [spoon fed to them by liberal party staffers] as fact and refusing to ask any questions or do any investigating or challenging of the other side. A refusal to even ask themselves – could there be an ulterior motive in me being given this ‘story’ content? Perhaps I shouldn’t just put it out there without even changing a word of it”.

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