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Everything is Going to Hell in a Basket!

June 4, 2012
  • Everyone hates Julia Gillard!
  • Everyone hates Tony Abbott!
  • Sharemarkets are collapsing around world!
  • The people are revolting!
  • It’s all turning to custard in a major way!

***AN EXCLUSIVE EXCLUSIVE EXCLUSIVE***

According to reports, Australia’s most-hated Prime Minister Julia Gillard will “absolutely” lead Labor to the next election according to her “fellow cabinet ministers” despite Labor equalling its lowest-ever results in today’s Fairfax/Nielsen poll.

Today’s poll puts Labor’s primary vote at 26 per cent, while two party preferred, the Coalition comprehensively leads Labor by 57 per cent to 43 per cent.

If there was a uniform swing, this would give the Coalition some 31 extra seats.

This morning, Treasurer Wayne Swan dismissed the poll results.

“The opinion polls will come, week to week, month to month,” Mr Swan told ABC radio. “I don’t get focused on the opinion polls at all.”

Based on current polling, Mr Swan’s seat of Lilley in Brisbane would be under serious threat at the next election. But the Treasurer said that he was “not at all” fazed by the prospect of losing his seat.

Mr Swan said Ms Gillard would “absolutely” be leading Labor to the next election – scheduled for next year.

Attorney-General Nicola Roxon also said Labor would “absolutely” stick with Ms Gillard.

Ms Roxon told Macquarie Radio that it was frustrating the polls did not reflect Ms Gillard’s ability.

“I really work very closely with Julia. She’s incredibly strong, incredibly decent,” Ms Roxon said.

“It’s one of those occasions where some of the public opinion and commentary is so disconnected with the actual experience of Julia face-to-face that it’s frustrating for us.”

Today’s poll results also brought some bad news for Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

The Nielsen poll finds that former leader and communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull is preferred as Coalition leader by 61 per cent of voters, compared with 34 per cent for Mr Abbott.

Mr Abbott’s personal approval also fell 5 points to 39 per cent, while his disapproval rose 5 points to 57 per cent.

Coalition MP Steven Ciobo explained that Mr Abbott’s personal ratings were low because he was “doing his job.”

Mr Ciobo said that Mr Abbott had “so much material to work with” in attacking the government.

“There’s no doubt that one of the consequences of that is that you’re sometimes viewed as being negative,” he told Sky News.

Meanwhile,  the “whole world” is facing a worldwide economic meltdown as the Australian Sharemarket plunges in early trading following negative leads from overseas.

At 10.11am AEST, the benchmark S&P/ASX200 index was down 1.75 per cent to 3992.8, while the broader All Ordinaries index was down 1.76 per cent to 4044.6.

It is the first time since November that the S&P/ASX200 has been below 4000. It reached 3984.3 on November 25.

Meanwhile, in a sign that even traditional hero’s are buckling under all this tremendous pressure, once golden boy swimming champion Kieran Perkins has trashed yet another apartment after an all night drinking binge session involving five bottles of wine!

In other news, Queen Elizabeth has sailed down the Thames in giant floating turd designed to commemorate this momentous occasion where her “subjects” were effectively sailed down the river.

Oh, the joy!

 

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58 Comments leave one →
  1. June 4, 2012 11:13 am

    Meanwhile…..

    Kevin Rudd remains “the people’s choice” to lead Labor to the next election with some 60% of voters in favor of Kevin Rudd and only 30% in favor of Gillard..

    Sportsbet also has Kevin Rudd as the favourite to lead Labor to the next election at $2.00 while Gillard’s odds are at $2.70.

  2. JAWS permalink
    June 4, 2012 11:25 am

    I don’t think Gillards handouts are going to give her much of a boost. The “needy” and various breeders in McMansions will get their handout and spend it and simply come to accept their weekly tax cut of $7 then a couple of months later they’ll open their first quarter electricity and gas bills and get a huge case of “price shock”.

    Then as they real back in horror and collapse in tears in front of the brand new plasma TV they’ll see Tony Abbott screaming
    ……………Big New Tax……………Big New Carbon Tax
    ……………Big New Tax……………Big New Carbon Tax
    ……………Big New Tax……………Big New Carbon Tax
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  3. June 4, 2012 11:33 am

    “a huge case of “price shock”.”

    I reckon you’re right there Jaws…

    Heck, I was shocked at the power bill I had last year just for heating a small weatherboard cottage (that was well-insulated), never mind having a family and having to heat a four bedroom, two storey McMansion in Castle Hill with “rumpus room” and room for a pony.

    Labor’s only hope is to let the milky bar kid come riding in and announce that he’ll “scale back” the carbon tax, but it seems the sycophants and conspirators in Labor are now so completely rusted onto Gillard, that the Rudd option would be a momentous admission of failure and incompetence.

    It seems that they would prefer to see the party completely destroyed at the next election… Which perhaps wouldn’t be such a bad thing, when you look at the likes of Peter Garrett…

  4. JAWS permalink
    June 4, 2012 11:51 am

    Yeah power bills are crazy

    I know of a wealth crazed prick that got so bored on the weekend due to the rain that he counted how many light globes are actually in his house.

    780 bulbs (when you count the tiny little decorative LEDS in the backyard)

    He freaked out.

    He told his wife to stop doing the washing or running the dryer before 10pm. Otherwise he’d turn off her wine fridge.

  5. JAWS permalink
    June 4, 2012 12:15 pm

    What with…………… flesh eating Zombies strutting the planet,…………….. Gillard in Government with Swan as Treasurer, ………………Europe imploding,………………… a Mormon quite likely to takeover the White House, …………………..Iran making nuclear weapons, …………………..massacres in the Middle East, …………………a psycho Canadian gay porn movie actor prostitute on the loose in Paris, ………………….a psycho Australian straight B grade movie actor called Matthew Newton on the loose in Miami

    Then clearly no one gets outa here alive……………….

  6. June 4, 2012 12:25 pm

    We’re “absolutely” fucked. Drink more vodka. Absolutely.

  7. JAWS permalink
    June 4, 2012 12:33 pm

    “I really work very closely with Julia. She’s incredibly strong, incredibly decent,”

    -Ms Roxon said.

    “Incredibly strong”…………..?

    Who the f**k does she think she’s kidding ?

    Gillard is “strong”…………………. except when confronted by Paul Howes and Dave Oliver last week about the importation of workers whereupon she screamed…………

    “I know nothing about it”

    So in utter fear she even f**king lies to her own people. All because they control a large swathe of her caucus support.

    She’s really quite pathetic and is not only incompetent but is quickly simply becoming an embarrassment to the Nation as a PM

  8. el gordo permalink
    June 4, 2012 12:35 pm

    I noticed that Smith and Crean are running head to head at 6/1.

  9. JAWS permalink
    June 4, 2012 12:51 pm

    Egg……………..It will be Rudd.

    Gillard had the opportunity last week to announce a major policy triumph with the EMA policy . She could have stood up before the Nation and sounded like a leader .

    Instead true to her “talent” at policy alchemy she managed to turn gold into shit.

    Partly because she has chosen to go on this stupid class warfare policy espoused by her and Swan

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2012 1:33 pm

    This is what we hear from the ALP barrackers-

    *’but the economy is so strong.’ The economy was strong when the Liberals lost too. They lost because people didn’t trust Howard. I think the public has exactly the same orientation towards Gillard.

    *‘But Abbott can’t be trusted’. Who knows? But one thing we do know is that the ALP didn’t trust the man they made their leader. They’ve since trashed his reputation and any legacy.

    *There’s a $70bn black hole. Who knows? But we know that Swan is full of crap when he talks about a surplus.

  11. June 4, 2012 2:22 pm

    At least there will be decent music in hell…(apart from the comforting screeching of the damned).

  12. June 4, 2012 3:36 pm

    So apparently Wayne Swan “isn’t concerned” that the latest Nielsen poll confirms the 18 month long “trend” now that EVERYONE HATES JULIA and intend to punish her rotten stuck up snotty “out of touch” ring-wormed bottom at the next election with a universal categorical “FU Jules” at the next election…

    Nah, I wouldn’t be concerned neither…..

  13. JAWS permalink
    June 4, 2012 4:10 pm

    The ASX is down but Japan’s Nikkei is even worse off by 3%. Apparently Sony Electronics share price has dipped below 1,000 Yen for the first time since 1980 a year after they introduced the groundbreaking ……………………..“Walkman”

  14. el gordo permalink
    June 4, 2012 5:39 pm

    International lending has contracted severely, in a similar way to the Lehman debacle in 2008.

  15. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2012 5:44 pm

    Labor’s only hope is to let the milky bar kid come riding in and announce that he’ll “scale back” the carbon tax,

    Maybe someone orta investigate the power bill rorting … and I reckon that doesn’t happen because the state governments of any political persuasion are raking it in for doing absolutely nothing except “legally” jacking the price up and letting the retailers cop the shit (that they are used to anyway) …

    Power billing is a big con job that even Abbott (especially Abbott’s mob) couldn’t deal with anyway!

    How do you really feel about, Julia Gillard, sreb? Is it true that gay guys relate better to women than blokes … Colton seemed to think so … then he got appendicitis?

  16. June 4, 2012 5:59 pm

    TB, I had dinner the other night with a group of gay guys (middle aged ) who all felt that Julia Gillard was a “disgrace”.

    The prevailing view was that they had no expectations from Abbott but given that Gillard is an unmarried atheist no one could understand why she is such an outspoken objector to marriage equality especially now that Obama supports it when the US is full of many more religious nut jobs than AUS.

    Personally I think “a disgrace” is being too generous..

  17. TB Queensland permalink
    June 4, 2012 7:00 pm

    sreb, I must admit I can’t understand anyone objecting to gay marriage – surely its basic civil/human rights in a Western Democracy … the irony is that many gay couples don’t want to get married but just want the option there … I can understand that … we were quite happy to not to get married and especially not in a church … eventually we did to shut our parents up …

  18. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 4, 2012 7:32 pm

    The only people who object to marriage equality are-
    • Duplicitous political types who have misread the public sentiment, eg Gillard
    • Religious zealots, or near zealots, eg Abbott
    • The mean spirited narrow minded types, eg Bolt

  19. el gordo permalink
    June 4, 2012 8:30 pm

    Marriage is a risky venture, good luck to all those who pass this way. It’s best if each party comes with similar asset worth, to buy a house or business, which can be divided equally with any possible divorce.

    Gay marriage should have been on Julia’s platform, along with pokie reform and drug law reform, but no…she’s a loser. This adds more weight to the theory that those who have been through the socialist alliance school are not fit to be in government.

  20. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    June 5, 2012 12:23 am

    “surely its basic civil/human rights in a Western Democracy”

    Umm no, its not and even the World Court has said so…Not that I am a supporter of said court but this is clearly not the point. Anything that has the backing of a federal government and in turn that of the average citizen/taxpayer is subject to the process of the prevailing system. Very simple, call it something else….

  21. public toilet permalink
    June 5, 2012 4:13 am

    G’day, Sparta. Long time no see! 🙂

  22. June 5, 2012 7:49 am

    Good heavens it’s Sparta!

  23. Bacchus permalink
    June 5, 2012 7:56 am

    Shall I save your time Sparta?

    “Gay marriage will inevitibly lead to paedophiles demading the right to marry minors, zoophiles to marry their dogs, and polyandrists and polygynists will send us all to hell in a basket.” 🙄

  24. Tony permalink
    June 5, 2012 7:56 am

    Yes. Welcome back. I’d be interested to know how you found us so long after the (sudden) demise of Blogocrats.

  25. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 9:23 am

    Bloody Hell…………………..the US Cavalry has arrived

  26. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 9:25 am

    Did someone here mention “waterboarding” somewhere ?

  27. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 9:26 am

    Pilgrim and Chalkie might turn up next

  28. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 9:33 am

    So last week Thomson pleads to be left alone then goes on another rampage directing people to Peter Wick’s website of allegations against Kathy Jackson.

    Thomson’s plea to the media was always just so full of bullshit as could be seen by the stunt he pulled in parliament a day later.

    I hope Abbott goes after him again although Abbott should probably just use an “attack dog”.

    I hope he shows that grubby thief not a shred of emotional or professional mercy.

  29. June 5, 2012 9:38 am

    The best chance that Labor and Gillard have is that Phoney Tony remains as leader of the NO Coalition. I suspect that when push comes to shove (ie. voters get their piece of paper on which they can daub their vote) there’s a good chance they’ll go; ‘Oooooohhh! Phoney Tony? Me no think so’! The result; potentially a NO Coalition without a clear mandate, or another hung parliament where dirty deals are done to secure government by one party or another.
    Rudd would be a fool to take back the poisoned chalice when he can pick up the remnants, and a clear field after the election. And at least the Labor Right and the Union thugs will have been well and truly castrated. Bodes well for a Labor future.
    Conversely, a Coalition with Turnbull as leader would put Labor in the outfield for three or four elections. Heaven, we might even see them end up like they did in Queensland!
    Won’t comment on which side would be better for Oz — don’t think that either party deserves to be a government!

  30. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 9:46 am

    “……..don’t think that either party deserves to be a government!”

    Out of your entire post at least you got that half right……………LOL

  31. el gordo permalink
    June 5, 2012 10:09 am

    The people don’t like either leader, but when the time comes they will vote on platform and not the leadership.

  32. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 10:33 am

    *******Not Every Economy is Going To Hell in a Hand Basket******

    An economy where salaries are increasing at a rapid rate

    From AAP this morning…I give you an economic success story

    Cuban salaries rise to $19 a month

    05/06/2012 07:50AM AEST
    The average monthly salary in Cuba rose 17 per cent between 2006-2011 to the equivalent of $US19 ($A19.67), the state statistics office say.

    That meant the average monthly wage of workers in Cuba – where the Communist-ruled state controls more than 90 per cent of the economy – climbed from the equivalent of $US16 ($A16.56) a month in 2006 to $US19 ($A19.67) last year, the office said on its website.

    Low salaries are a key complaint in the Americas’ only one-party Communist regime. There is a very small salary range from unskilled to highly skilled labour; so a street sweeper might make $US17 ($A17.60) and a brain surgeon $US22 ($A22.77) a month.

    In the Caribbean nation of 11 million, education and health care are free or nearly free, but the cost of putting food on the table remains a major everyday concern.

    Cubans who have access to hard currency – those who work in tourism or who have relatives overseas – can spend it to supplement their incomes. But million have no such access.

    President Raul Castro’s government has trimmed state payrolls and allowed a few crowd-pleasing changes like allowing Cubans to stay in hotels that once were only for foreigners.

    But Castro, 81, has not launched any wholesale overhaul of Cuba’s decrepit centrally planned economy which is kept afloat largely by Venezuelan economic support.

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2012 10:56 am

    The material from Peter Wicks is interesting mud.

    ***EXCLUSIVE***
    by Peter Wicks

    “Associates employ kids as casuals”
    “High salaries paid to union officials”
    “Lawler makes complaint to police”
    “Craig Thomson – Mother Theresa or Lindy Chamberlain?”

    Fascinating – for ardent supporters of bizarre conspiracy theories. But still nothing from him that indicates how Craig didn’t do what FWA has found he did do.

  34. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 11:01 am

    It looks like their might be a bit of a break through in the Euro crisis.

    Put in very simple terms up until now the bailouts have gone to governments in Greece, Portugal and Ireland which have used these funds to reinject cash into their banks. This policy has been largely on the insistence of Germany which does not want to see the banks directly bailed out as the security would be almost worthless anyway.

    Its better to lend to a Sovereign is the thinking.

    It looks like Germany might be willing to bend the policy and in return for yielding to the pressure Berlin will insist on major steps towards a eurozone federation or political union with budgetary, fiscal, and scrutiny powers vested in Brussels and in the European Court of Justice, meaning vast transfers of sovereignty from member states.

    A United States of Europe

    Germany have officially denied any such plan is being finalised

    So being officially denied means its true

  35. June 5, 2012 11:05 am

    It’s all going to hell in a basket!!!!

    Qantas profits to fall by 90%!!!

  36. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    June 5, 2012 11:20 am

    Probably due to them banning Guttertrash.

    Coincedentally, I’m in a Qantas lounge at the moment! The Farnham Report isn’t banned!
    Pity I have to go and do some (shudder) work.

  37. el gordo permalink
    June 5, 2012 11:21 am

    ‘A United States of Europe’, not the Fourth Reich?

  38. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 2:07 pm

    Standard & Poors assessment is a 1 in 3 chance that Greece will exit. Their theory seems to be if that happens other states will then watch as Greece totally disintegrates economically and very brutally.

    That will galvanise the other states like Spain, Italy Portugal etc just to get on with budget measures and live with austerity.

    They’ll be too f**kin’ scared not to cut spending

    The German mantra seems to be you can choose fiscal freedom or choose bread and water.

    Make your choice………………

  39. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2012 4:03 pm

    Greece is the Lehman Brothers of Europe?

  40. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 4:24 pm

    Yep…………that’s the theory

    Either fit in or ship out……………….

    The Markets have priced in a Greek exit , the Euro is now prepared for it and it seems the Germans have had enough…………………….. So if the Socialists want to play chicken Angela will be happy to accommodate.

    A big German Leopard Tank on a collision course with a Donkey can only end one way

  41. el gordo permalink
    June 5, 2012 4:45 pm

    The other theory is that it may be difficult keeping Ireland, Spain, Portugal and Italy inside the tent because the people don’t see a future in austerity

    We can then blame democracy for the economic collapse of Western Europe.

    If Greece withdraws and the Dracma (sic) comes back in vogue…they may experience a recovery through tourism.

  42. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 4:48 pm

    So Qantas finished the day at $1.15 down almost 19% in one day. It’s a long way from $6.00 per share at the height of the takeover attempt of 2007 and just shows how far the market has come and how stupid the players at Allco Equity were.

    The Domestic Market is ok and they have quantified last years union trouble as costing $100M. The market is now worried that QAN might need a capital raising if Europe and US stay soft.

    With dividend yields amongst some of our majors so high and price earnings per share so low its difficult to see how this market could go too much lower.

    But it still has a bit to give up it would seem.

  43. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 5:04 pm

    Perhaps El Gordo but the interesting thing with Italy and Spain is that they have cut their federal public service, programs and pensions back and then absolutely taken billions off their grants to their provinces which have no borrowing powers. So local government in say Tuscany or Umbria etc have no other option but to cut or raise local taxes as well.

    So in a way they subcontracted out some of the dirty work.

    And it might just work if they can keep the socialists and anarchists under their collective rocks.

    It’s a bit of a different psyche in Italy and Spain. The Italians really do fear the
    “Carabinieri” as its known to be rather “heavy handed” and anytime someone is carted off to the local HQ “the questioning” can be of a rather “robust” nature over rather lengthy time periods. That arm of the Police is not known to be gentle.

    The Spanish only lost Generalisimo Franco in the mid 1970s. So many of them remember just what the authorities can be like if push come to shove.

  44. el gordo permalink
    June 5, 2012 5:36 pm

    Fascinating insight Jaws and I suppose keeping the extremists from the left and right under control will be a priority.

    Your observation that Germany will let Greece hang out to rot as a warning to the others…is perceptive.

  45. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 5:44 pm

    Well the Huns used to do it to the Romans.

    So I guess they found and re-read the original book on “What to do about Pesky Southern Europeans”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Teutoburg_Forest

    LOL

  46. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 6:27 pm

    Light at the End of the Tunnel ?

    There will be a G7 telephone hookup toady between the ministers and central bankers from Canada, the US, Britain, Japan, Germany, France and Italy.

    In other …….good news.

    Portugal is still meeting the terms of its rescue package. Its Troika of lenders announced last night that the Portuguese financial reform program “remains on track amidst continued challenges.”

    That means Lisbon will receive its next tranches of aid, totalling €4.1bn.

    Spain it seems as well as Italy are also still being looked upon as ‘at least trying” to extricate themselves from the mess.

    Greece is garnering very little sympathy it seems and if the Greeks are watching the attitudes of the rest of Europe the message is clear that if you are Greek …………before you cast your vote pause and consider your future if your intention is to cast in favour of the Socialists.

    One gets the feeling that Angela is sending a very clear message via the back channels that Greece will be on its own if it tries to renegotiate. And the fact that the Greeks are getting very little press compared to Spain should send the shivers through them.

  47. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2012 7:02 pm

    You mean the Greeks are de-pressed?

  48. TB Queensland permalink
    June 5, 2012 7:14 pm

    Greece is the Lehman Brothers of Europe?

    Close but not quite!

    It was another of those organisations that ToSY is so enamoured with … Greece may have been fkn stupid … but guess who fleeced ’em …

    http://www.rt.com/news/greece-eu-goldman-sachs/

    Another thing that pisses me off … theres’s a lot of ’em … is the arrogance of the USA commentators when talking about the EU crisis … guess who fkn caused it!

  49. Tony permalink
    June 5, 2012 7:25 pm

    ‘It was another of those organisations that ToSY is so enamoured with …’

    Oh really? You got a link for that?

  50. Splatterbottom permalink
    June 5, 2012 7:27 pm

    “Another thing that pisses me off … theres’s a lot of ‘em … is the arrogance of the USA commentators when talking about the EU crisis … guess who fkn caused it!”

    Yep. Americans are the root of all evil. They even tricked the Europeans into monetary union so that they could roll about laughing when the inevitable happened.

  51. June 5, 2012 7:33 pm

    Maybe not the root of all evil, but certainly possessed of a unique head up arse brand of UScentric insularity & generally devoid of an understanding of the world outside of their boundaries.

    They have a talent for being unable to look in the fkn mirror.

  52. JOHNWINSTONHOWARDSONOFSAM permalink
    June 5, 2012 10:35 pm

    Hehehehehehehe

    It’s all a goddam Yankee conspiracy.

    The Goldman Sachs credit salesmen and women caused a monetary but not a fiscal union in Europe and also caused the borrowing of trillions from non Goldman Sachs banks to build unwanted apartments in France and So does that mean west tigers supporter Barry o’farrell or Paul langmack are going to replace handler next year just in case the bulldogs fail. You better call Danny weidler with your scoopPortugal by shoddy builders financed by depositors in Spain and Portugal.

    How the fuck did they do that ?

    LOL

  53. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 10:40 pm

    I might repost that last comment since somehow an earlier piece of a confidential SMS message to a mate of mine somehow got included

    Anyway so it’s all a goddam Yankee conspiracy.

    The Goldman Sachs credit salesmen and women caused a monetary but not a fiscal union in Europe and also caused the borrowing of trillions from non Goldman Sachs banks to build unwanted apartments in France and Portugal by shoddy builders financed by depositors in Spain and Portugal.

    How the fuck did they do that ?

    LOL

  54. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 11:19 pm

    And if you really need to know …….every second morning a mate of mine sends me an SMS to inform me , in the sticks at palm beach, who he has just seen at a certain CBd coffee shop. Last week it was o’ Farrell with Corey ( bulldogs nrl chairman) this week he and Paul langmack ( ex player).

    Somehow my reply from 9am got included here

  55. JAWS permalink
    June 5, 2012 11:44 pm

    Reading up on what would be required for a euro fiscal union………..?

    Forget it

    Too many constitutional changes just in Germany alone. And that’s where the money is

  56. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    June 6, 2012 12:46 am

    Hello there Blogocrats…I am pleased to see many of the same cast of characters; was always a good mix of opinions here…CHARGE!!!!

  57. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    June 6, 2012 12:54 am

    Bacchus,

    Polyandry and Polygamy is a forgone conclusion now; I think we all know it is a matter of time before the lawsuits start flowing, at least on this side of the pond…But as I have always contended, it is a matter of law that gives me pause, nothing more. Neither a duplicitous political type, zealot or narrow minded…

    I have always contended it is the narrow minded that thinks “love” be the only factor we use to “change the rules” in the middle of the game and all that entails..Anyhow, see you have come out swinging; hahahah….

  58. June 6, 2012 1:00 am

    Well fuck me dead! It’s my old nemesis Sparta. How are you, my old friend?

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